Aquaponics Digest - Sun 01/23/00




Message   1: Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
             from "TGTX" 

Message   2: Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
             from "TGTX" 

Message   3: Ted's Back, was Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
             from S & S Aqua Farm 

Message   4: Re: Ted's Back, was Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
             from "TGTX" 

Message   5: Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
             from Marc & Marcy 

Message   6: Recent Article on Hydroponics
             from "TGTX" 

Message   7: Re: Ted's Back, was Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
             from "TGTX" 

Message   8: Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
             from "TGTX" 

Message   9: Re: Recent Article on Hydroponics
             from "Barry Thomas" 

Message  10: Re: Recent Article on Hydroponics
             from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta 

Message  11: Re: Sheep tea, chicken manure tea
             from dreadlox@cwjamaica.com (michael kent barnett)

Message  12: Wetland and Riparian Plant Nursery  Hydra
             from "TGTX" 

Message  13: Re: Sheep tea, chicken manure tea
             from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta 

Message  14: Re: Ted's Back, was Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito
  plant)
             from S & S Aqua Farm 

Message  15: Re: Wetland and Riparian Plant Nursery  Hydra
             from S & S Aqua Farm 

Message  16: Re: Ted's Back, was Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
             from "TGTX" 

Message  17: Archive URL
             from S & S Aqua Farm 

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Subject: Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
From:    "TGTX" 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 07:41:28 -0600

> According to this web site fish eat it:
>
> http://www.ias.unu.edu/vfellow/foo/ibs/azolla.htm
>
> Sounds extraordinarily cool Kevin.
>
> Marc S. Nameth
> AquaTek Water Services, LLC, 5856 Rd HH.5, Fowler, CO 81039
> 719 263 5492

Howdy Marc.
Yes indeed, duckweed is extraordinarily cool.

Here are some "water weed" references for potential aquaponics applications:

Boyd, C.E. 1969.  The nutritive value of three species of water weeds.
Economic Botany 22(2): 123-127.

Boyd, C.E. 1970.  Vascular aquatic plants for mineral nutrient removal from
polluted waters.  Economic Botany 23(1):95-103.

Boyde, C.E. 1976.  Accumulation of dry matter, nitrogen, and phosphorus by
cultivated water hyacinth.  Economic Botany 30:51-56.

Cornwell, D.A. , et. al, 1977.  Nutrient removal by water hyacinth.  Journal
of the Water Pollution Control Federation  49:57-65.

Corpron, K.E. and D.A. Armstrong.  1983.  Removal of nitrogen by an aquatic
plant, Elodea densa, in recirculating Macrobrachium culture systems.
Aquaculture 32: 347-360.

Edwards, P. et. al., 1992.  Cultivation of duckweeds in septage-loaded
earthen ponds.  Bioresource Technology 40:109-117.

Finlayson, et. al.  1987.  Treatment of piggery effluent by an aquatic plant
filter.  Biological Wastes 19: 179:196.

Harvey, R. M. and J.L. Fox 1973.  Nutrient removal using Lemna minor.
Journal of the Water Pollution Control Federation.  45(9): 1928-1938.

Huebert, D.B. and J.M. Shay.  1991.  The effect of external phosphorus,
nitrogen, and calcium on growth of Lemna trisulca.  Aquatic Botany  40:
175-183.

Journey, W.K., et. al.  1991.  Duckweed Aquaculture and Its Use in Fish
Culture and Waste Water Treatment.  Emena Technical Department, Agricultural
Division, World Bank, Washington, DC., 68 pgs (This may be hard to find...I
suggest you try the USDA Agricultural Library in Beltsville, Maryland for a
possible first place to look...also, look for "World Bank" as the author).

Oron, G., et. al.  1988.  Nitrogen removal and conversion by duckweed grown
on waste-water.  Water Resources.  22:179-184.

Oron, G., et. al.  1981.  Ammonia stripping of fish influent by duckweed in
a circulating system.  In: Proceedings of the Water Reuse Symposium II,
American Water Works Association Research Foundation, Denver, CO: 1638-1647.

Oron, G, et. al. 1984.  Waste water recycling by duckweed for protein
production and effluent renovation.  Water Science Technology 17:803-817.

Porath, D. and J. Pollock. 1992.  Ammonia stripping by duckweed and its
feasibility in circulating aquaculture.  Aquatic Botany.  13:125-131.

Reddy, K.R. and W.F. Debusk.  1984.  Growth characteristics of aquatic
macrophytes cultured in nutrient-enriched water: I. Water hyacinth, water
lettuce, and pennywort.  Economy Botany  38(2): 229-239.

Reddy, K.R. and W.F. DeBusk.  1985.  Nutrient removal potential for selected
aquatic macrophytes.  Journal of Environmental Quality.  14(4): 459-462.

Sutton, R.J. and W.H. Ornes 1975.  Phosphorus removal from static sewage
effluent using duckweed.  Journal of Environmental Quality.  4: 367-370.

All of these references were selectively included here from a little
bibliography for aquaculture entitled "Recirculation - Aeration", put out by
the USDA's Agricultural Research Service, National Agricultural Library
(Bibliographies and Literature of Agriculture Number 124, August 1993).  I
visited that library back in 1995 on a very tight schedule...I almost missed
my plane flight out of D.C., because I found it so hard to break away from
the library.  You should visit there sometime if you ever get the chance.
Great place.   Well, as you can see, many of these references are quite
dated, as is yours truly, but the info is still valid, I would think.

Enjoy.

Ted

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Subject: Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
From:    "TGTX" 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 07:49:08 -0600

By the way, I don't recommend any one spend too much time researching water
hyacinth as a primary fish food for aquaponics, since that is a dead end for
the most part, however, the nutrient uptake and water quality improvement
function of hyacinth is well documented.  Although it is quite a nuicance
aquatic weed in Florida, Texas, and elsewhere, if contained in greenhouses
for effluent polishing, it can be quite effective.

Do keep going in the direction of duckweed, Ipomea, etc, and see what
develops.

Ted

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Subject: Ted's Back, was Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
From:    S & S Aqua Farm 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 07:51:43 -0600

At 07:49 AM 01/23/2000 -0600, you wrote:

>Do keep going in the direction of duckweed, Ipomea, etc, and see what
>develops.
>
>Ted

Welcome home!!

Paula
S&S Aqua Farm,  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/

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Subject: Re: Ted's Back, was Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
From:    "TGTX" 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 09:09:11 -0600

Howdy Paula.

"Glad to be seen" or "Glad for you to see me", as Justin Wilson might say.
How is the archive shaping up?  Has Jim Searcy already slam-dunked that
mighty task?

Ted

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Subject: Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
From:    Marc & Marcy 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 08:29:16 -0700

TGTX wrote:
> 
> > According to this web site fish eat it:
> >
> > http://www.ias.unu.edu/vfellow/foo/ibs/azolla.htm
> >
> > Sounds extraordinarily cool Kevin.
> >
> > Marc S. Nameth
> > AquaTek Water Services, LLC, 5856 Rd HH.5, Fowler, CO 81039
> > 719 263 5492
> 
> Howdy Marc.
> Yes indeed, duckweed is extraordinarily cool.

A breath of fine fresh air!!!  Glad to see (hear? read?)
you!!

Got your Taj Mahal built?

Marc

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Subject: Recent Article on Hydroponics
From:    "TGTX" 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 09:33:11 -0600

Check out this recent article on hydroponics

 http://unisci.com/stories/20001/0121005.htm

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Subject: Re: Ted's Back, was Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
From:    "TGTX" 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 10:13:25 -0600

Has Jim Searcy already slam-dunked that
> mighty task?

Jim Sealy...Jim Sealy...Sorry bout that Jim.
(I know a fellow by the name of Searcy, so it was a slip of... the fingers)
 
Ted

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Subject: Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
From:    "TGTX" 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:17:52 -0600

>
> Got your Taj Mahal built?
>
> Marc

Sorry to report that the new greenhouse is but a gleam in my eye and just
another of tomorrow's enterprises.  Many of the components have been placed
on the greenhouse site (the fiberglas fish tank, valves, pipes, Kelwall
conical solar tubes, etc.), for me to start assembling things.  This spring
I will concentrate on planting trees, landscaping, setting up the shiny,
Industrial Grade Chicken Tractor(s), starting a new garden (about 3000 ft^2)
and studying to get my P.E. certificate in environmental engineering.

Although it was hard to leave the old place, I am happy and thankful that I
was able to buy this new place and I look forward to the time, hopefully by
the end of this year, that I am no longer an arm chair aquaponics cowboy.
Until then, I suppose I must live vicariously through y'all's efforts and
ponderings.  Another good thing is that I will have my personal library in
one place and semi-organized so that I can pull things right off the shelf
instead of trying to remember what box or barn or attic they are in.  Plenty
of home library space here.  Hopefully I can use that material in
discussions with this group, and perhaps to forward some new topics or
things I have been pondering to you folks, so as to ask your
opinion/assessment of info and ideas.

Keep me posted.  Always like to hear from y'all.

Ted

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Subject: Re: Recent Article on Hydroponics
From:    "Barry Thomas" 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:33:13 -0000

> From: TGTX 
> Check out this recent article on hydroponics

> http://unisci.com/stories/20001/0121005.htm

Ted,

Hope your move went well.

Interesting article which along with:

http://unisci.com/stories/0722981.htm

from the same source seems to me to underline the point that radical
change is needed in agriculture. However "organic" a farm is or however
modified the crops grown, agriculture will remain hi-impact,
eco-unfriendly and generally unsustainable (not to mention the fact that
it just doesn't work for a large % of the population) until the actual
mechanics of how the main bulk of staple crops are grown is
fundamentally changed.

Anything else is just tinkering round the edges.

Barry
barrythomas@btinternet.com

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Subject: Re: Recent Article on Hydroponics
From:    Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:39:14 -0500

Hey Ted,

Bob Hochmuth is a good guy.  Jay Meyers and I went to a grower's
conference put on by his  Extension office two weeks ago.  They did a
nice job.  He is very helpful over the phone too.

Adriana
> Check out this recent article on hydroponics
>  http://unisci.com/stories/20001/0121005.htm

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Subject: Re: Sheep tea, chicken manure tea
From:    dreadlox@cwjamaica.com (michael kent barnett)
Date:    Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:36:18 +0000

Gordon or Mark any news or reports on below...where the results bad
good, substandard not worth trying?  what about the contact for the farm
in Mandeville? Have you forotten us completely?
David A and Mike B..
Jamaica..

> I suspect that the sheep manure experiment was less than perfect.
> Gordon Creaser is my consultant and in the many discussions we had
> regarding organic alternatives he never mentioned this one.
> =

> Adriana Guti=E9rrez
> Green Cuisine
> Sarasota, Florida

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Subject: Wetland and Riparian Plant Nursery  Hydra
From:    "TGTX" 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:12:14 -0600

Check out this website on wetland plant culture by a group called Hydra

 http://www.hydraaquatic.com/nursery.html

This time I will switch to plain text while I am still in Outlook Express
and before I fire it off to you guys.

See if I do this right this time and let me know please!

Ted

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Subject: Re: Sheep tea, chicken manure tea
From:    Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:50:14 -0500

Hi Mike,

Gordon is in the middle of relocating to New Mexico so he's been pretty
scarce lately.  I'll probably be talking with him in the next week so
I'll ask him about it.

Adriana

michael kent barnett wrote:
> 
> Gordon or Mark any news or reports on below...where the results bad
> good, substandard not worth trying?  what about the contact for the farm
> in Mandeville? Have you forotten us completely?
> David A and Mike B..
> Jamaica..
> 
> > I suspect that the sheep manure experiment was less than perfect.
> > Gordon Creaser is my consultant and in the many discussions we had
> > regarding organic alternatives he never mentioned this one.
> >
> > Adriana Gutiérrez
> > Green Cuisine
> > Sarasota, Florida

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Subject: Re: Ted's Back, was Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito
  plant)
From:    S & S Aqua Farm 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:14:54 -0600

At 09:09 AM 01/23/2000 -0600, Ted wrote:
>Howdy Paula.
>
>"Glad to be seen" or "Glad for you to see me", as Justin Wilson might say.
>How is the archive shaping up?  Has Jim Searcy already slam-dunked that
>mighty task?

and 

 Sealy...Jim Sealy...Sorry bout that Jim.
>(I know a fellow by the name of Searcy, so it was a slip of... the fingers)
> 

Still working on it in his "spare" time.  We do have up the 1999 daily
digests available, though.  Not searchable yet, but you could look to see
what we've been up to since you left. :>)

Paula
S&S Aqua Farm,  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/

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Subject: Re: Wetland and Riparian Plant Nursery  Hydra
From:    S & S Aqua Farm 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:41:46 -0600

At 03:12 PM 01/23/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>Check out this website on wetland plant culture by a group called Hydra
>
> http://www.hydraaquatic.com/nursery.html
>
>This time I will switch to plain text while I am still in Outlook Express
>and before I fire it off to you guys.
>
>See if I do this right this time and let me know please!
>
>Ted

Great link, Ted.  Did you just get your computer back up?  

No problem with the HTML this time, thanks.

Paula

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Subject: Re: Ted's Back, was Re: Has anyone tried Azolla ( mosquito plant)
From:    "TGTX" 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:05:02 -0600

> > Still working on it in his "spare" time.  We do have up the 1999 daily
> digests available, though.  Not searchable yet, but you could look to see
> what we've been up to since you left. :>)

How would I do that?
Thanks

Ted

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Subject: Archive URL
From:    S & S Aqua Farm 
Date:    Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:19:40 -0600

At 08:05 PM 01/23/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>> > Still working on it in his "spare" time.  We do have up the 1999 daily
>> digests available, though.  Not searchable yet, but you could look to see
>> what we've been up to since you left. :>)
>
>How would I do that?
>Thanks
>
>Ted

Big OOPS - Can't seem to keep from rushing today.  The location for the
aquaponics archive (currently in digest form by date -- 1999 only as far as
I know) is:  http://www.i55mall.com/aquaponics/

Paula
S&S Aqua Farm,  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/


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