Aquaponics Digest - Wed 03/01/00
Message 1: Re: turtles
from "timjohanns"
Message 2: Fw: turtles
from "timjohanns"
Message 3: Aphid chasers
from "Jay Myers"
Message 4: Re: Aphid chasers
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 5: Re: Aphid chasers
from "Tania Dunlop"
Message 6: Re: turtles
from "bennett"
Message 7: Re: turtles I would also be interested
from "Melisa Wennerholm"
Message 8: turtles, turtles, turtles
from "timjohanns"
Message 9: Re: Aphid chasers
from Bertmcl
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Subject: Re: turtles
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:36:56 -0800
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Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 4:30 PM
Subject: turtles
In reply to the turtle raising thing with the mayan indians, they =
probably don't have access to 40% protien food like we do. Hydro growers =
all know what happens when you tailer an organism, plant or in this =
case, a reptiles environment to ideal levels. They grow. And they grow =
well. What we plan to do in this next year, is hatch 500 or more eggs, =
test the results of wild captives in the the breeding arena, and =
continue to follow S&S's philosophy of simpler and less is more. We =
started in a 2' oval rubber horse-feeder, we have wells that produce 50 =
gallons per min, one shoots water nearly two feet out of a four inch =
clay tile. I'm sure we will sell some stock later, especially if we have =
to pond or tub raise brood stock to breed in captivity. It's a =
relatively new venture from a commercial standpoint, but, like you, we =
gotta dream, an idea, and we're the kinda guys that are just darn handy =
to have around. I'm a CCRN and a paramedic, you know the profile. chat =
on!! I'll check back later. Bioman.
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timjohanns
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aquaponics@townsqr.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 =
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PM
Subject: turtles
In reply to the turtle raising thing =
with the=20
mayan indians, they probably don't have access to 40% protien food =
like we do.=20
Hydro growers all know what happens when you tailer an organism, plant =
or in=20
this case, a reptiles environment to ideal levels. They grow. And they =
grow=20
well. What we plan to do in this next year, is hatch 500 or more eggs, =
test=20
the results of wild captives in the the breeding arena, and continue =
to follow=20
S&S's philosophy of simpler and less is more. We started in a 2' =
oval=20
rubber horse-feeder, we have wells that produce 50 gallons per min, =
one shoots=20
water nearly two feet out of a four inch clay tile. I'm sure we will =
sell some=20
stock later, especially if we have to pond or tub raise brood stock to =
breed=20
in captivity. It's a relatively new venture from a commercial =
standpoint, but,=20
like you, we gotta dream, an idea, and we're the kinda guys that are =
just darn=20
handy to have around. I'm a CCRN and a paramedic, you know the =
profile. chat=20
on!! I'll check back later. =
Bioman.
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Subject: Fw: turtles
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:05:02 -0800
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To: aquaponiics@townsqr.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 5:51 PM
Subject: Fw: turtles
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From: timjohanns=20
To: snsaquasys@townsqr.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 4:30 PM
Subject: turtles
In reply to the turtle raising thing with the mayan indians, they =
probably don't have access to 40% protien food like we do. Hydro growers =
all know what happens when you tailer an organism, plant or in this =
case, a reptiles environment to ideal levels. They grow. And they grow =
well. What we plan to do in this next year, is hatch 500 or more eggs, =
test the results of wild captives in the the breeding arena, and =
continue to follow S&S's philosophy of simpler and less is more. We =
started in a 2' oval rubber horse-feeder, we have wells that produce 50 =
gallons per min, one shoots water nearly two feet out of a four inch =
clay tile. I'm sure we will sell some stock later, especially if we have =
to pond or tub raise brood stock to breed in captivity. It's a =
relatively new venture from a commercial standpoint, but, like you, we =
gotta dream, an idea, and we're the kinda guys that are just darn handy =
to have around. I'm a CCRN and a paramedic, you know the profile. chat =
on!! I'll check back later. Bioman.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 5:51 PM
Subject: Fw: turtles
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Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 4:30 PM
Subject: turtles
In reply to the turtle raising thing =
with the mayan=20
indians, they probably don't have access to 40% protien food like we do. =
Hydro=20
growers all know what happens when you tailer an organism, plant or in =
this=20
case, a reptiles environment to ideal levels. They grow. And they grow =
well.=20
What we plan to do in this next year, is hatch 500 or more eggs, test =
the=20
results of wild captives in the the breeding arena, and continue to =
follow=20
S&S's philosophy of simpler and less is more. We started in a 2' =
oval rubber=20
horse-feeder, we have wells that produce 50 gallons per min, one shoots =
water=20
nearly two feet out of a four inch clay tile. I'm sure we will sell some =
stock=20
later, especially if we have to pond or tub raise brood stock to breed =
in=20
captivity. It's a relatively new venture from a commercial standpoint, =
but, like=20
you, we gotta dream, an idea, and we're the kinda guys that are just =
darn handy=20
to have around. I'm a CCRN and a paramedic, you know the profile. chat =
on!! I'll=20
check back later. Bioman.
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Subject: Aphid chasers
From: "Jay Myers"
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:13:57 -0600
anybody got a sure fire cure for aphids. Murphuys Oil soap isn't getting
it, and the benificials I guess just can't eat that much. What ever it is
has to be good to the fish.
Thanks
Jay
Panama City Beach.
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Subject: Re: Aphid chasers
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:58:30 -0500
Jay Myers wrote:
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> anybody got a sure fire cure for aphids. Murphuys Oil soap isn't getting
> it, and the benificials I guess just can't eat that much. What ever it is
> has to be good to the fish.
Welcome to aphids, Jay, the cockroaches of the greenhouse world. I
don't know if you can use pyrethrins or neem. You can also try
Ultrafine Oil - only apply it in the late afternoons/evenings or it will
magnify the sun and make nasty little holes in your greens.
A very effective option is to cover your seeds with the lightest
floating row cover from the start.
My condolences,
Adriana (rest assured you're suffering in good company:>))
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Subject: Re: Aphid chasers
From: "Tania Dunlop"
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:26:21 -0700
I am happy to report that the ladybugs that I ordered (they came in the
mail) and released in my growing room three weeks ago are performing
admirably. When they fall into the fish tanks, the fish don't seem to eat
them so I usually scoop them up with a net. I released about 400 into the 6
foot square growing room and the aphid population has been steadily
declining. The adults did not seem to do much but the larvae are basically
aphid eating machines. My infestation was so bad when I started that new
growth on my eggplants was hidden by a mass of aphids. The aphids had a
really strong preference for eggplant over all the other plants. I had
tried (with not much success) soap, water sprays, low humidity, high
humidity, fans, yellow stickies and foul language.
Last year, I did try the beneficial wasps and they worked well if I
eliminated almost all of the aphids before I released them but they never
seemed to get ahead.
My wife was not keen on the ladybugs in the house but I sealed off the room
(except for screened vents) and there have been few escapees.
Long term, I hope to keep at least some ladybeetles alive by feeding them a
food which I bought from the same place as the ladybeetles.
I got the beetles from a place called NiC (Natural Insect Control) in
Ontario, Canada (nic@niagara.com). I don't know if they can or do ship to
the States.
By way of introduction, I am a long time aquarist who has been using "plant
filters" for about 8 years. My organic-hydroponic system is mostly separate
from my aquariums except that I use fish waste water and the "gunk" that I
clean from my aquarium filters as a part of my nutrient mix. I also have a
couple of plant filters on small aquariums, these are actual aquaponic
systems using perlite beds and modified NFT. My fish are primarily Amazon
basin tropicals.
Hope this helps,
Doug
Calgary, Alberat, Canada
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From: Jay Myers
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 5:13 PM
Subject: Aphid chasers
> anybody got a sure fire cure for aphids. Murphuys Oil soap isn't getting
> it, and the benificials I guess just can't eat that much. What ever it is
> has to be good to the fish.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jay
> Panama City Beach.
>
>
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Subject: Re: turtles
From: "bennett"
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:51:45 -0500
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Apparently timjohanns, you have posted other info about the turtles..... =
but I, for one, didn't get it. I really do want to know about raising =
turtles. Could you repost, or respond privately to me? =20
Among other things, I'd like to know how long it takes them to reach =
market size.
D.Bennett
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From: timjohanns
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Date: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 7:11 PM
Subject: Fw: turtles
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From: timjohanns=20
To: aquaponiics@townsqr.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 5:51 PM
Subject: Fw: turtles
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From: timjohanns=20
To: snsaquasys@townsqr.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 4:30 PM
Subject: turtles
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In reply to the turtle raising thing with the mayan indians, they =
probably don't have access to 40% protien food like we do. Hydro growers =
all know what happens when you tailer an organism, plant or in this =
case, a reptiles environment to ideal levels. They grow. And they grow =
well. What we plan to do in this next year, is hatch 500 or more eggs, =
test the results of wild captives in the the breeding arena, and =
continue to follow S&S's philosophy of simpler and less is more. We =
started in a 2' oval rubber horse-feeder, we have wells that produce 50 =
gallons per min, one shoots water nearly two feet out of a four inch =
clay tile. I'm sure we will sell some stock later, especially if we have =
to pond or tub raise brood stock to breed in captivity. It's a =
relatively new venture from a commercial standpoint, but, like you, we =
gotta dream, an idea, and we're the kinda guys that are just darn handy =
to have around. I'm a CCRN and a paramedic, you know the profile. chat =
on!! I'll check back later. Bioman.
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Apparently timjohanns, you have =
posted other=20
info about the turtles..... but I, for one, didn't get it. I =
really do=20
want to know about raising turtles. Could you repost, or respond =
privately=20
to me?
Among other =
things, I'd like=20
to know how long it takes them to reach market size.
D.Bennett
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timjohanns <bioman@osage.net>
To: =
aquaponics@townsqr.com =
<aquaponics@townsqr.com>
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Wednesday, March 01, 2000 7:11 PM
Subject: Fw:=20
turtles
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 5:51 PM
Subject: Fw: turtles
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 4:30 PM
Subject: turtles
In reply to the turtle raising =
thing with the=20
mayan indians, they probably don't have access to 40% protien food =
like we=20
do. Hydro growers all know what happens when you tailer an organism, =
plant=20
or in this case, a reptiles environment to ideal levels. They grow. =
And they=20
grow well. What we plan to do in this next year, is hatch 500 or =
more eggs,=20
test the results of wild captives in the the breeding arena, and =
continue to=20
follow S&S's philosophy of simpler and less is more. We started =
in a 2'=20
oval rubber horse-feeder, we have wells that produce 50 gallons per =
min, one=20
shoots water nearly two feet out of a four inch clay tile. I'm sure =
we will=20
sell some stock later, especially if we have to pond or tub raise =
brood=20
stock to breed in captivity. It's a relatively new venture from a =
commercial=20
standpoint, but, like you, we gotta dream, an idea, and we're the =
kinda guys=20
that are just darn handy to have around. I'm a CCRN and a paramedic, =
you=20
know the profile. chat on!! I'll check back later.=20
Bioman.
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Subject: Re: turtles I would also be interested
From: "Melisa Wennerholm"
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:02:10 -0800
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Please Post this info for I am Interested also
Thank You=20
Don
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Subject: turtles, turtles, turtles
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:23:11 -0800
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I apologize for the scattered info, I in regard to snappers, Paula sent =
some stuf back, I'm handy, but not on a computer. I would be glad to =
answer any q's that anyone has by contacting me directly @ =
bioman@osage.net=20
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Subject: Re: Aphid chasers
From: Bertmcl
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:38:45 EST
Jay, try 1 tablespoon of unsented liquid DOVE and 1 Tablespoon of Baby Oil or
Vegetable Oil to a gal of water. It has not had any effect on our TILAPIA.
I put a few different size fish in a 55 gal aquarium and added 4 tablespoons
of each directly to the tank and the fish hept on eating and swiming around.
I did not want to use the spray if it would hurt the fish.
Good luck,
Bert McLaughlin
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