Aquaponics Digest - Mon 03/06/00
Message 1: Re: Contact Missing
from Raul Vergueiro Martins
Message 2: Greenhouse project
from "beacnhrt"
Message 3: Re: What is the address of the hydroponic list?
from Doug Peckenpaugh
Message 4: Re: Experimental lighting questions
from Fred Chambers
Message 5: Fwd - New: Mushroom Cultivation and Marketing
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 6: Fwd. Organic Seafood-USA
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 7: Re: Contact Missing
from "beacnhrt"
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Subject: Re: Contact Missing
From: Raul Vergueiro Martins
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 23:26:28 +1300
beacnhrt wrote:
> Hi Raul,
> I had been wondering if maybe my Email Server was having trouble
> receiving the Aquaponics traffic. But, like Ted said, people are probably
> working outside. I know I have been. I have been putting up a demonstration
> greenhouse on my farm next to the highway in order to advertise a new
> residential style we just started making. The weather is great here in Los
> Estados Unidos. I think it is due to La Nina. Have a good time at Carnival,
> but, don't over do it.
>
> melvin landers
>
Hello Melvin:
Thanks for your e-mail.
Hope you have success with your new greenhouse. Tell me more about your
project.
I'm 60, and so, too old for Carnival. I stay at home, studying and resting.
Got three messages from the Aquaponics List.
Really, as you said, may be people is out for work.
Best regards
Raul Vergueiro Martins
rvm@sti.com.br
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Subject: Greenhouse project
From: "beacnhrt"
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:42:05 -0600
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Hi Raul,
I am in the greenhouse business and am putting up a demonstration =
model on my farm so that I can have one close by my wifes flower shop =
for convenience in showing it to customers and as an advertisment. It =
sits on a major highway.
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Subject: Re: What is the address of the hydroponic list?
From: Doug Peckenpaugh
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 09:14:58 -0800
Patrick:
Here is the HSA list. They're going to move the list soon to a new
server, but there shouldn't be much disruption.
http://hsa.hydroponics.org/lounge/mailinglist/page.html
--Doug Peckenpaugh
Patrick Pierce wrote:
> What is the address of the hydroponic list?
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Subject: Re: Experimental lighting questions
From: Fred Chambers
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 10:10:11 -0800
Hi Sam, Ted, et al.
The crystals, magnets, and astrological work-up experiments will come
later, but first lets talk about light and fish. ;-)
To clarify my questions and to satisfy your curiosity, I'll briefly run
through my silly hypothesis. The hatchery where I'm interning is home to
200 broodstock King Croaker or White seabass, (Sciaenidae Family Croakers
and Drums "Atractoscion, nobilis." This species is the largest of the
9-drum species along the California coast. Our largest weigh 90-pounds.
That's where the king croaker name comes from, and I guess white seabass
was their common name in the fish markets.
Annually, we produce millions of juveniles for enhancement and experimental
culture. A few waves of virus-caused catastrophic losses aside, our
biggest problem is cannibalism. My experiment will compare larval
success/behavior/growth under different colors and intensities of light.
Here's why this experiment may show differences. Salt water, plankton,
detritus, and dissolved compounds in the natural larval habitat absorb red
and blue wavelengths. In the hatchery, we use white light, usually
mimicking day light: full spectrum with a little extra red. Our larval
culture tanks are crystal clear recirculating and shallow, not filtering
much blue or red wavelengths. Perhaps the reds and blues are artificially
stimulating anti-social behavior.
Those of you who've spent time in jail know that prisons are usually
painted in various shades of pink. Some prisons even require the inmates
to wear pink underwear. The inmates are less violent, and more manageable.
Similarly, the poultry industry doesn't use white light in their growout
operations. They find that the birds are calmer and grow faster under blue
light when young, and under green light as they grow older.
That's my basic reasoning behind the experiment. I cannot go on about
retinal melatonin production affecting somatic neurotransmitter levels via
the pineal and superchiasm because I'm still gathering literature and
anecdotes.
Tell me your stories on light color and fish behavior/growth/success.
Fred
Sustainable Aquaculture
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The Black Walnut Alliance is one of many campus and local groups
encouraging Cal Poly to explore environmentally responsible uses of green
spaces. Visit and post at:
http://www.regen.org (BWA, SAFER, Regen site that kick's butt!)
http://www.wetlandact.org/ (Wetland Action Network)
http://www.rokcircle.com (The Wilderness Forum)
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Subject: Fwd - New: Mushroom Cultivation and Marketing
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 20:14:03 -0600
Following the discussion a while back on mushrooms, here's a notice posted
from list member Steve Diver to the sanet-mg (Sustainable Agriculture
Network mail group). For those of you not familiar, ATTRA (Appropriate
Technology Transfer to Rural Areas) is a wonderful resource. Although I
believe written materials are still limited to those in the U.S., many
resources are available now on-line at their web site. Paula
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>From: "Steve Diver"
>To: sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu
>Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:03:08 -0600
>Subject: New: Mushroom Cultivation and Marketing
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>Announcing this new web item from ATTRA.
>
>Mushroom Cultivation and Marketing
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/mushroom.html
>
>Abstract
>
>"The market for mushrooms continues to grow due to interest
>in their nutritional and health benefits. Their potential to
>serve in waste management has yet to be fully explored. As
>fungi, mushrooms have life cycles very different from those
>of green plants. The choice of species to raise depends on
>what growth media are available and on market
>considerations. Oyster mushrooms grow on many substrates and
>are easiest for a beginner. Shiitake already has earned
>considerable consumer demand. Mycorrhizal types of
>mushrooms, such as chanterelles and matsutake have not been
>successfully cultivated. Commercial cultivation of morels is
>limited to a single facility which uses a patented process.
>Truffle production requires a significant investment of time
>before production begins. The evaluation of a commercial
>mushroom enterprise should include a careful analysis of
>potential markets. Many information resources are referenced
>for further research."
>
>The authors are Alice Beetz & Ms. Lane Greer
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>From: ATTRA - Appropriate Technology Transfer for Rural Areas
>http://www.attra.org
>================================================
S&S Aqua Farm, http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Fwd. Organic Seafood-USA
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 20:14:11 -0600
Saw this posted today on the AQUA-L list, and thought some of you might be
interested. Paula
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>Hey folks,
>
> I just found out that the National Organic Program within USDA is
>having a National Organic Standards Board Meeting in Buena Park, CA on
>March 21 and 22. They are setting up dates for the Certification of
>the production and handling of organic Seafood and are having meetings
>in the following places>>>>>
>
>April 7 Seattle, Workshop formats with States of Washington and Alaska
>April 10 Mobile AL with EPA Gulf Coast Conference
>April 11 Anchorage with Pacific Council of Fisheries
>May 3 Providence RI with Atlantic Council of Fisheries
>June 23-24 University of Minnesota Independent conference
>
>The important thing here is that if shellfish are ever going to be
>considered organically grown, they have to be put on the list for
>determining how they could be considered organically grown. If any of
>you want to see to this happen eventually, now is the right time to get
>on board. No certainties but at least you can put in your two cents.
>
> There is a web site that you might look at :
>
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Subject: Re: Contact Missing
From: "beacnhrt"
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:43:52 -0600
-----Original Message-----
From: Raul Vergueiro Martins
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Date: Monday, March 06, 2000 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: Contact Missing
>
>
>Raul wrote >Thanks for your e-mail.
>Hope you have success with your new greenhouse. Tell me more about your
project.
>
>rvm@sti.com.br
Hi Raul,
I am setting up a 12'x12' greenhouse that we will be mainly selling to
gardeners. It will be located next to a major highway for advertisement. We
have had many people asking us about this size greenhouse, so, we decided to
put together a kit. I am going to advertise it on the internet. Greenhouses
are getting to be more and more popular with gardeners here in the U.S.. Who
knows, maybe some day it will not be uncommon for the average gardener to
raise vegetables and fish in their own greenhouse. The members of the
Aquaponics List may be laying the foundation for a new way of gardening.
melvin landers
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