Aquaponics Digest - Tue 04/11/00
Message 1: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Mon 04/10/00
from A Calabretta
Message 2: Re: Manure fertilizers
from "beacnhrt"
Message 3: Re: diagrams
from "Peter D. Rau"
Message 4: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Mon 04/10/00
from DAVEINBHAM
Message 5: Re: diagrams
from "beacnhrt"
Message 6: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Mon 04/10/00
from DAVEINBHAM
Message 7: Re: NFT channels
from "Sulfercreek"
Message 8: NFT Channels
from "Jerry Eschberger"
Message 9: Re: NFT channels
from BNKilgore@cs.com
Message 10: Re: NFT channels
from "Jerry Eschberger"
Message 11: Re: NFT channels
from "beacnhrt"
Message 12: greenhouse ends
from "timjohanns"
Message 13: bio-beds
from "timjohanns"
Message 14: Re: Manure fertilizers
from "Steve"
Message 15: Re: bio-beds
from Crystalcreekaqua
Message 16: Re: llinois Indiana State Publications
from "Steve"
Message 17: If I wanted to hatch
from "timjohanns"
Message 18: Re: Manure fertilizers
from Raul Vergueiro Martins
Message 19: Re: Manure fertilizers
from "bennett"
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Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Mon 04/10/00
From: A Calabretta
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:11:11 -0700 (PDT)
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> Message 1: Re: NFT channels
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> Message 2: Re: NFT channels
> from "Peter D. Rau"
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> Message 3: thanks
> from "Peter D. Rau"
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> Message 4: Re: NFT channels
> from Troa9
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> Message 5: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Sun 04/09/00
> from DAVEINBHAM
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> Message 6: Re: NFT channels
> from "beacnhrt"
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> Message 7: Manure fertilizers
> from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
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> Message 8: Re: NFT channels
> from "fkious"
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> Message 9: Re: NFT channels
> from "bennett"
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> Message 10: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Sun 04/09/00
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> Subject: Re: NFT channels
> From: "beacnhrt"
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:02:07 -0500
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter D. Rau
> To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
> Date: Friday, April 07, 2000 2:07 PM
> Subject: NFT channels
>
>
> Peter wrote:
> >Does anyone have a good source for NFT channels or
> instructions for making
> them
> >using supplies available from Home Depot or some
> place like that? I'd
> >appreicate any and all information.
>
>
>
> Peter,
> If you will send me your email address, I will
> send you a diagram of an
> NFT trough you can make yourself.
> melvin landers>
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> Subject: Re: NFT channels
> From: "Peter D. Rau"
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> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:18:30 -0500
>
> I'm in New Orleans
>
> Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta wrote:
>
> > > Does anyone have a good source for NFT channels
> or instructions for making them
> > > using supplies available from Home Depot or some
> place like that? I'd
> > > appreicate any and all information.
> >
> > Where are you located Peter?
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> Subject: thanks
> From: "Peter D. Rau"
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> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:28:39 -0500
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> Thanks for all the helpful information. I'll keep
> everyone posted as to
> the progress of my project.
>
> Regards,
> Peter
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> Subject: Re: NFT channels
> From: Troa9
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:15:29 EDT
>
> This is my first post,,,,hope the procedure
> correct,,,I wonder,,,does one
> ever have
> to supplement fertilizer in order to use NFT on
> tomatoes, for example ??
> Thanks
> Jason
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> Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Sun 04/09/00
> From: DAVEINBHAM
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:26:53 EDT
>
> In a message dated 04/09/2000 11:05:02 PM Central
> Standard Time,
> aquaponics-digest-request@townsqr.com writes:
>
> << well....maybe I will go with corregated fiberglas
> glazing
> in the final design decision, but I have used that
> in an attached greenhouse
> that I built back in 1993 and I saw the condition
> of the fiberglas recently.
> I wasn't so good. >>
>
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> ******
> Ted,
> I have had some experience with both corregated
> fiberglass and polycarbonate
> at my house on my 900 ft. Sq. greenhouse and at the
> local botanical gardens.
> The polycarbonate does last longer and has less heat
> loss than the
> fiberglass, but I do not think it is cost effective.
> The polycarbonate lasts
> about 15 years here, the fiberglass about 12 years.
> The fiberglass should be
> cleaned anually. That will give you something to do
> while walking in your
> gutters. Also, use only the fiberglass panels sold
> by greenhouse suppliers,
> not the stuff from the local discount house. The
> good stuff has much better
> UV protecters in/on it. It is also important to
> install the panels right side
> out as the UV inhibitors are frequently on one side
> only. The brand I like ,
> Plastic Steel, has a label on each sheet telling you
> which side faces the sun.
> Hope this helps.
> Regards,
> Dave
>
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> Subject: Re: NFT channels
> From: "beacnhrt"
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:41:36 -0500
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troa9
> To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
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Subject: Re: Manure fertilizers
From: "beacnhrt"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:33:04 -0500
Adriana,
I am not the right person to answer you. I do not have an aquaponics
system. I am on the list to learn about it.
Raul Vergueiro Martin is the right person to answer this.I believe he has
decades of experience with use of poultry manure in hydroponic systems. But,
if you want alot of information, he will probably want to contact you off of
the list.
Raul,
Would you mind addressing this topic?
melvin landers
-----Original Message-----
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 1:37 PM
Subject: Manure fertilizers
>
>> Jason,
>> There is not a crop around that cannot grow just fine without
>> manufactured fertilizer, even in a high tech NFT system. manure was the
>> original fertilizer and is still champion. Of course that is just in my
>> opinion.
>
>Melvin,
>Have you successfully used any other manures than fish manure in
>hydroponics? One of our agricultural research centers is doing well
>with pelletized COMPOSTED chicken manure under the drippers in
>run-to-waste systems (to avoid fermentation I believe). They determine
>when to add fresh fertilizer and establish the amount of manure using
>very expensive sensors, so they haven't fine-tuned the process for
>common folks.
>
>Adriana
>
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Subject: Re: diagrams
From: "Peter D. Rau"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:12:38 -0500
hmmph...I'd like to receive those diagrams as well...haha...I don't think they
ever made it to me.
Peter
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Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Mon 04/10/00
From: DAVEINBHAM
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:44:12 EDT
In a message dated 04/10/2000 11:04:57 PM Central Standard Time,
aquaponics-digest-request@townsqr.com writes:
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Subject: Re: NFT channels
From: "bennett"
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:48:26 -0400
me too -- bennett@frognet.net
>could you send me a copy of the diagram
>fred kious
>
>> >Does anyone have a good source for NFT channels or instructions for
>making
>> them
>> >using supplies available from Home Depot or some place like that? I'd
>> >appreicate any and all information.
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter,
>> If you will send me your email address, I will send you a diagram of
>an
>> NFT trough you can make yourself.
>> melvin landers>
>
>>
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Me too.... DAVEINBHAM
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Subject: Re: diagrams
From: "beacnhrt"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:53:29 -0500
Sorry about that Peter. I just sent it off again. I have had many requests
for the diagram for this simple NFT trough and for Raul's information on
Biodigesters. If any one did not recieve what they asked for, please let me
know. My email server does't always let me know if something does't make it.
melvin landers
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter D. Rau
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: diagrams
>hmmph...I'd like to receive those diagrams as well...haha...I don't think
they
>ever made it to me.
>
>Peter
>
>
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Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Mon 04/10/00
From: DAVEINBHAM
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:56:04 EDT
In a message dated 04/10/2000 11:04:57 PM Central Standard Time,
aquaponics-digest-request@townsqr.com writes:
<< HELP!
>out as the UV inhibitors are frequently on one side only. The brand I like
,
>Plastic Steel, has a label on each sheet telling you which side faces the
sun.
>
I've searched and searched the internet for "Plastic Steel" trying to find
dealers of the stuff. I can't find anything anywhere! Help!
>>
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I got mine from Capitol Agricultural Supply ( CASCO )in Montgomery, Alabama
several years ago. I bought enough to cover the greenhouse twice and stored
the rest until the recover project last year. Saved a bundle on freight that
way.
That brand may no longer exist. Just call CASCO and ask what they currently
reccomend. They have an 800# but I don't have it handy.
The point I tried to make, apparently unsuccessfully, was don't use the stuff
at your local discount house. Go to a reputable greenhouse supplier. You WILL
pay a little more initially, but you will not have to replace your plastic
every few years.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Dave
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Subject: Re: NFT channels
From: "Sulfercreek"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:29:12 -0400
I would also like the diagram
thanks dave bok
"Don't pull tomorrow's clouds over today's sunshine"
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From: "fkious"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: NFT channels
Peter
could you send me a copy of the diagram
fred kious
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> From: beacnhrt
> To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
> Subject: Re: NFT channels
> Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 6:02 AM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter D. Rau
> To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
> Date: Friday, April 07, 2000 2:07 PM
> Subject: NFT channels
>
>
> Peter wrote:
> >Does anyone have a good source for NFT channels or instructions for
making
> them
> >using supplies available from Home Depot or some place like that? I'd
> >appreicate any and all information.
>
>
>
> Peter,
> If you will send me your email address, I will send you a diagram of
an
> NFT trough you can make yourself.
> melvin landers>
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Subject: NFT Channels
From: "Jerry Eschberger"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:17:07 -0700
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I would also like a diagram of the channels. I'm new to this and would =
certainly like a copy of the nft channels and any other info for =
starting a hydroponic garden that you might have.
thanks,
jerry
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Subject: Re: NFT channels
From: BNKilgore@cs.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:18:18 EDT
I've been growing hydroponically for fourteen years. I recently have started
using plastic, vinyl rain gutters that I buy from Lowes for 3.55 for ten
feet. You can use the same gutter as a "return" gutter to your tanks that we
construct from plywood lined with plastic. We grow lettuce, both butterhead
and baby in these. hope this is some help.
Bob
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Subject: Re: NFT channels
From: "Jerry Eschberger"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:39:42 -0700
Thanks, I had something like that in mind but wanted to hear it from someone
else.
Thanks
jerry
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From:
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: NFT channels
> I've been growing hydroponically for fourteen years. I recently have
started
> using plastic, vinyl rain gutters that I buy from Lowes for 3.55 for ten
> feet. You can use the same gutter as a "return" gutter to your tanks that
we
> construct from plywood lined with plastic. We grow lettuce, both
butterhead
> and baby in these. hope this is some help.
>
>
> Bob
>
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Subject: Re: NFT channels
From: "beacnhrt"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:36:06 -0500
Bob,
Do you use caps on these gutters? If so what do you use?
melvin landers
-----Original Message-----
From: BNKilgore@cs.com
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: NFT channels
>I've been growing hydroponically for fourteen years. I recently have
started
>using plastic, vinyl rain gutters that I buy from Lowes for 3.55 for ten
>feet. You can use the same gutter as a "return" gutter to your tanks that
we
>construct from plywood lined with plastic. We grow lettuce, both butterhead
>and baby in these. hope this is some help.
>
>
>Bob
>
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Subject: greenhouse ends
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:32:08 -0700
Do I need light penetrate-able ends on my cold-frame? It is 14' wide and 32'
long with a peak height of ten feet, and runs east and west. My first 4'x8'
bio-bed is 24" from the west end and is facing north-south length-wise. I
started with 3"x4" landscape timbers nailed together creating a 30" wall to
get more height from the cold frame. I want to use grooved pine plywood
siding to make the unit more visually appeasing. My neighbors are absolute
nightmares, they are usually nice to my face but, turn me in to the city on
a regular basis. The city engineer is on my side and chuckled at the 38
calls he received after I buried my 1100 gallon tank. He appreciates my
ingenuity, they find it intrusive and radical.
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Subject: bio-beds
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:41:24 -0700
Are 4 - 4' x 8' x 12" bio-beds filled with 1/4 to 3/8 washed sand screenings
enough filter for about 1000 gallons of water with about 300 tilapia at full
growth? Should I use some sort of formula to determine this? How do the
number and size of fish affect this outcome? Do I wait for aphids etc. to
appear or do I incorporate bio-bugs as a pre-maintenance regimine?
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Subject: Re: Manure fertilizers
From: "Steve"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:59:06 -0500
Hello Raul Martin,
I would also be interested. Pls. contact me off-list @: careplus@execpc.com.
Thanks.......Steve
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From: "beacnhrt"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Manure fertilizers
> Adriana,
> I am not the right person to answer you. I do not have an aquaponics
> system. I am on the list to learn about it.
> Raul Vergueiro Martin is the right person to answer this.I believe he has
> decades of experience with use of poultry manure in hydroponic systems.
But,
> if you want alot of information, he will probably want to contact you off
of
> the list.
>
> Raul,
> Would you mind addressing this topic?
> melvin landers
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
> To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
> Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 1:37 PM
> Subject: Manure fertilizers
>
>
> >
> >> Jason,
> >> There is not a crop around that cannot grow just fine without
> >> manufactured fertilizer, even in a high tech NFT system. manure was
the
> >> original fertilizer and is still champion. Of course that is just in my
> >> opinion.
> >
> >Melvin,
> >Have you successfully used any other manures than fish manure in
> >hydroponics? One of our agricultural research centers is doing well
> >with pelletized COMPOSTED chicken manure under the drippers in
> >run-to-waste systems (to avoid fermentation I believe). They determine
> >when to add fresh fertilizer and establish the amount of manure using
> >very expensive sensors, so they haven't fine-tuned the process for
> >common folks.
> >
> >Adriana
> >
>
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Subject: Re: bio-beds
From: Crystalcreekaqua
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:01:29 EDT
Tim,
The formula, depending on who you talk to, is anywhere from a ratio
of 1:1 to 1:1.5 tank water (in cubic feet) to grow beds (again in cubic
feet). It would also depend on how high your fish density is, and yours
isn't high, and how much extra food and algae there is (more waste, more bed
space). Considering that yours is 134:128, you're in the right ball park for
the fish/gallon that you have.
Fish on,
David
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Subject: Re: llinois Indiana State Publications
From: "Steve"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:07:41 -0500
Hi,
Both sites say, "The page cannot be displayed."
Steve
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From: "Sulfercreek"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 8:54 PM
Subject: llinois Indiana State Publications
> Here are some sites I found interesting
>
> http://ag.ansc.purdue.edu/aquanic/publicat/state/il-in/il-in.htm
>
> ========================================
>
> http://ag.ansc.purdue.edu/aquanic/
>
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Subject: If I wanted to hatch
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:25:52 -0700
If I wanted to hatch fish eggs like, creek chubs, or shiners, how do I go
about it? Where can I search for info? Do I just milk them like walleyes?
Can I do this in a jar? I have a bunch of pregnant chubs, look like they're
about to blow, want to get these hatched!! Info? Help!!
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Subject: Re: Manure fertilizers
From: Raul Vergueiro Martins
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 01:54:55 +0700
beacnhrt wrote:
> Adriana,
> I am not the right person to answer you. I do not have an aquaponics
> system. I am on the list to learn about it.
> Raul Vergueiro Martin is the right person to answer this.I believe he has
> decades of experience with use of poultry manure in hydroponic systems. But,
> if you want alot of information, he will probably want to contact you off of
> the list.
>
> Raul,
> Would you mind addressing this topic?
> melvin landers
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
> To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
> Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 1:37 PM
> Subject: Manure fertilizers
>
> >
> >> Jason,
> >> There is not a crop around that cannot grow just fine without
> >> manufactured fertilizer, even in a high tech NFT system. manure was the
> >> original fertilizer and is still champion. Of course that is just in my
> >> opinion.
> >
> >Melvin,
> >Have you successfully used any other manures than fish manure in
> >hydroponics? One of our agricultural research centers is doing well
> >with pelletized COMPOSTED chicken manure under the drippers in
> >run-to-waste systems (to avoid fermentation I believe). They determine
> >when to add fresh fertilizer and establish the amount of manure using
> >very expensive sensors, so they haven't fine-tuned the process for
> >common folks.
> >
> >Adriana
> >
Hello Melvin:
You are free do forward the message about biodigested poultry feces to whom asks
you for it.
Our goal, is to colaborate with all friends in and out of the list.
"Vaia con Dios amigo"
Greetings
Raul Vergueiro Martins
rvm@sti.com.br
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Subject: Re: Manure fertilizers
From: "bennett"
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:28:28 -0400
>You are free do forward the message about biodigested poultry feces to whom
asks
>you for it.
>
Please forward the info to me!
bennett@frognet.net
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