Aquaponics Digest - Fri 05/05/00
Message 1: website
from "Steve"
Message 2: Re: website
from "Melvin Landers"
Message 3: RedClaw
from "Tommie"
Message 4: Red Claw
from "timjohanns"
Message 5: Re: Red Claw
from "Tommie"
Message 6: RE: RedClaw
from "Chris Mills"
Message 7: aerohydroponic reply
from "timjohanns"
Message 8: more Aero stuff
from "timjohanns"
Message 9: AgVentures and HFPM
from "timjohanns"
Message 10: vermiculture
from "timjohanns"
Message 11: RE: AgVentures and HFPM
from "Angela O."
Message 12: INFO - Virus adaptations/changes/versions
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 13: post about biodigestion compared to composting
from "Melvin Landers"
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Subject: website
From: "Steve"
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 00:52:17 -0500
Hi Gang,
Just thought I would throw this by ya'll. This is my website that a friend
of mine, "Dunk" on the hydroponics list, has put together for me. This is
his webpage. It is just phenomenal. Some of you may be interested.
http://www.home.mpinet.net/dunc/duncsgard.htm
My web page follows.It is still under construction, but has some kind of
neat pictures. A lot of the pictures are already obsolete because, as some
of you may remember, my tomatoes were a fiasco. The oriental green beens
just took over everything & the okra got too top heavy. I am now
concentrating on just romaine lettuce. This business is surely a learning
experience.
The website has no dialogue as of yet, so just kind of bear with it and use
your imagination.
http://www.home.mpinet.net/dunc/spring.htm
Don't want to bore you too much, so that is about it.
Have a GREAT day.......Steve
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Subject: Re: website
From: "Melvin Landers"
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 01:05:19 -0500
Looking good Steve! I like the background on your site too.
melvin landers
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From: Steve
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Cc: Dunk
Date: Friday, May 05, 2000 12:28 AM
Subject: website
>Hi Gang,
>
>Just thought I would throw this by ya'll. This is my website that a friend
>of mine, "Dunk" on the hydroponics list, has put together for me. This is
>his webpage. It is just phenomenal. Some of you may be interested.
>
>http://www.home.mpinet.net/dunc/duncsgard.htm
>
>My web page follows.It is still under construction, but has some kind of
>neat pictures. A lot of the pictures are already obsolete because, as some
>of you may remember, my tomatoes were a fiasco. The oriental green beens
>just took over everything & the okra got too top heavy. I am now
>concentrating on just romaine lettuce. This business is surely a learning
>experience.
>
>The website has no dialogue as of yet, so just kind of bear with it and use
>your imagination.
>
>http://www.home.mpinet.net/dunc/spring.htm
>
>Don't want to bore you too much, so that is about it.
>
>Have a GREAT day.......Steve
>
>
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Subject: RedClaw
From: "Tommie"
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 20:58:56 -0700
Hello Group :)
This is our first question of, i 'm sure, many to come.
We are engaged in the planning stages of what we hope will become our
primary agri endeavor..aquaponics and organic produce. We have noticed some
discussion on RedClaw crayfish and was wondering if anyone knew of a good
source in the US for breeding and brood stock.
We have enjoyed this mailing list very much and already learned a lot from
everybody's experiences.
Thank you all for sharing.
Tommie J. Young
Spring Haven Farms
Caddo Gap Ar.
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Subject: Red Claw
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 08:49:39 -0700
The only reliable source for red claw I have found to date is in Belmont
Springs Utah. contact John McClellan @ 435-458-3365 address pob 31 Fielding
Utah 84311 (almost) breeding-size adults were sold to me for 9.00 ea, with
berried females @ 40.00 ea. I opted for the 9.00 stuff only.. as the 40.00
ones die as quickly as a 9.00 one, it just doesn't sting as much.:) John is
new to the business this year, and appears eager to please. I recommend that
you request a certain length to the adults you order, ie. nothing under 4"
etc. to guarantee age consistency, I recieved a 6 inch male and several 3"
females mixed in with 4 and 5 inchers so I had to wait for the females to
reach breeding size ( closer to 5"). Also they have a 10 min shipping order,
they send a few extra to compensate for shipping losses, if any. Good Luck.
MAKE SURE THEY HAVE COVER!!!!
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Subject: Re: Red Claw
From: "Tommie"
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 21:57:36 -0700
Thank you very much for your quick help :)
I'll give John a call and go from there.
Thanks again.
Tommie
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From: timjohanns
To: post
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 8:49 AM
Subject: Red Claw
> The only reliable source for red claw I have found to date is in Belmont
> Springs Utah. contact John McClellan @ 435-458-3365 address pob 31
Fielding
> Utah 84311 (almost) breeding-size adults were sold to me for 9.00 ea, with
> berried females @ 40.00 ea. I opted for the 9.00 stuff only.. as the 40.00
> ones die as quickly as a 9.00 one, it just doesn't sting as much.:) John
is
> new to the business this year, and appears eager to please. I recommend
that
> you request a certain length to the adults you order, ie. nothing under 4"
> etc. to guarantee age consistency, I recieved a 6 inch male and several 3"
> females mixed in with 4 and 5 inchers so I had to wait for the females to
> reach breeding size ( closer to 5"). Also they have a 10 min shipping
order,
> they send a few extra to compensate for shipping losses, if any. Good
Luck.
> MAKE SURE THEY HAVE COVER!!!!
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Subject: RE: RedClaw
From: "Chris Mills"
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 08:49:55 -0500
Try calling David Rouse at Auburn University. He is very familiar with the
Redclaw and it's status in the US. He would probably be able to answer any
of your questions.
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From: aquaponics
[mailto:aquaponics]On Behalf Of Tommie
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 10:59 PM
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Subject: RedClaw
Hello Group :)
This is our first question of, i 'm sure, many to come.
We are engaged in the planning stages of what we hope will become our
primary agri endeavor..aquaponics and organic produce. We have noticed some
discussion on RedClaw crayfish and was wondering if anyone knew of a good
source in the US for breeding and brood stock.
We have enjoyed this mailing list very much and already learned a lot from
everybody's experiences.
Thank you all for sharing.
Tommie J. Young
Spring Haven Farms
Caddo Gap Ar.
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Subject: aerohydroponic reply
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:47:11 -0700
Took a look at that website.. pretty fun!! I had a few suggestions from my
system design that may cut some dollars off your next endeavor. For the
drain pipe you used marine bulk-head fittings used for live-well
installation in thru-hull systems, My guess is these were 4-6.00 each, I
used EMT fittings for electrical conduit, they are grey in color, respond to
PVC cement and cost .58 ea. use one male threaded and one female threaded
with a rubber plumbing washer (.10 each) for slip joints in sink drains,
slipped tightly over the male threaded fitting. Drill your 1 1/4 hole and
screw the two fittings together, no need to heat either. I friction fit the
stand pipe inside the aero-tube to allow for changing water levels with
different length down-pipes. I found all this stuff at my second
home...Menards:) I used schedule 27-29 PVC soil pipe instead of schedule 40,
it comes in 10' sections and is "belled" at one end, which elliminated one
splicing coupler for my 20' tube system. I painted mine with two coats of
black paint and then a white one to cut down on algea growth within the
tubes. I supported mine every 3' using 2"x 2" and 1x4 lumber salvaged from
pallets. Schedule 27-29 cost 9.99 ea in 6 inch diameter, about half sched.
40's price, again I special ordered that one from Menards. Check around for
the 6" Fernco rubber caps. I paid 4.99 at a local shop, Menard's wanted 8.00
special order. They carry the 4" in stock. I also put a water pressure gauge
on my injection manifold, you can detect plug-ups that may go undetected
otherwise. ( the pressure goes up) They are the gauges for water sprinkler
systems and cost 3-5.00. I used 80 gph for each 10' of pipe as a formula,
the system is 215 plants and I grow everything in it by averaging the PH and
EC readings to satisfy the needs of lettuce, tomatoes, peppers or what ever,
they all grow some better than others, but they grow well, one and all.
Sorry I'm rambling, but I love this stuff, and this one time... at band
camp...
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Subject: more Aero stuff
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 13:25:52 -0700
I used a hose connector with a barb style fitting on one end for the
connection between the injection manifold and aero-lines. It comes in two
pieces, a barbed one that goes into either 1/2" black water pipe or the
softer 1/2" drip irrigation tubing, and the threaded portion that will
connect to the pipe threads of a water faucet, or a nylon threaded fitting
used in chemical spraying equipment. This nylon fitting has bolt-type
threads on one end and water faucet pipe threads on the other. I screwed
these into a 1" PVC "T", yes, from Menards, they are part of my injection
manifold, this allows me to move, repair, clean, each tube without shutting
down the whole system, as the hose-type connector just screws right off, a
faucet end cap and washer plug that site then temporarily or permanently.
Found all this stuff in the sprayer parts section of my local Tractor Supply
Co. TSC store. The midwest is full of fun stuff, I wander up and down the
halls of these places for hours "designing". Don't take the wife or kids on
these Einstien tours, they tend to rain on your parade!! My connecting of
the aero-lines was slightly different, tho I wouldn't say any better. I
utilized one hole instead of two. I drilled a 1/4" hole and started my
cable tie a click or two prior to crimping it in the middle and sticking it
thru the hole, I put them all in and then feed the aero-pipe thru the loops
inside the 6" PVC, the clicking/locking head of the cable tie remains on the
outside and when drawn-up holds the aero-line from turning inside, then I
trim off the tail, just cuz it looks more "factory":) I didn't mention
before that I ordered the regular glue-on style of cap for my 6" PVC Aero
tubes, I used glue-on's (but I didn't glue them permanent) on the
non-injection-manifold-end, and the rubber Fernco caps on the bell ends, as
they were only 1.68 ea. v.s. the 4.99 for the Fernco's. I also buried my
solution tank to lower the temp of the solution and ward off algea, but I'm
too lazy to dig it up to test whether it makes that much difference. I used
agricultural sprayer tanks for my Tilapia and hydro solution, they come
with the bulk head fittings for easy hook-ups. Just a few ideas on how I did
my similiar venture, oh yea, and this one time..at band camp....
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Subject: AgVentures and HFPM
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 13:55:18 -0700
I get a new magazine, called AgVentures, geared toward unconventional
agricultural livestock like, butterflies, frogs, elk, tilapia that kinda
stuff. Anyone know of a bull frog breeder? I like to breed and thought it
would be most exellent to see if I could get some frogs to hump in
captivity, my brother has a pond, and well, they taste like chicken. :) :)
:) ALSO....I happened upon this other magazine somewhere, and sent for a
sample, with all the food us hydroponicers are growing, ideas are always
welcome on how-to "put it by". It started as a newsletter in 96' and is now
a nice magazine, well written, and chock- full of recipe's and how-to's on
canning and preserving foods. The Feb/Mar. issue included an article on
canning clams, oysters and crab, and a fish article. It's called Home Food
Preserver's Magazine. pob 719 Brooklyn,MI 49230-0719. I'm not a sales person
for her, BUT... I would recieve a free issue added to my subscription if you
mentioned Tim Johanns as having led you to her publication. A lot of stuff
out there is junk, and when I hear of something worthy or use the same I
like to pass it on, get the three dollar sample if you're a skeptic, but it
is truly worthy of a good glance. And this one time...
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Subject: vermiculture
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 14:03:02 -0700
where can I buy red worms (E. foetida) for less than 25.00 per pound ? I
only want one pound, and they are listed for 30-40.00 per pound, NOT!! Help.
TIA
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Subject: RE: AgVentures and HFPM
From: "Angela O."
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 13:26:41 -0700
Dont know if this will help tim, but
Rayne Louisiana is the FROG capitol of the world.
The Louisiana frog company is located there. They deal in frozen products I am sure, But they
may be able to put you intouch with some one who would supply you with wild caught live frogs.
You might also try contacting Rayne Louisiana Chamber of Commerice.
I dont know anything about raising them although I have grown up with them around all of my
life. We have 600+ acres rice farm.
I can say they seem to be pretty territorial AND independant.
You may find 1 frog staking out a claim to the out fall of a culvert in a drainage ditch where
there is permanent water puddle. Never I have seen 2 or more in same place.
I do often find frog egg masses in the rice fields and tons of tad poles. However lots of
different kinds of frogs around so I am not sure how to tell which is a bull frog egg and which
is a leopard frog egg etc......
>From: "timjohanns"
>To: "post"
>Subject: AgVentures and HFPM
>Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 13:55:18 -0700
>Reply-To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
>
>I get a new magazine, called AgVentures, geared toward unconventional
>agricultural livestock like, butterflies, frogs, elk, tilapia that kinda
>stuff. Anyone know of a bull frog breeder? I like to breed and thought it
>would be most exellent to see if I could get some frogs to hump in
>captivity, my brother has a pond, and well, they taste like chicken. :) :)
>:) ALSO....I happened upon this other magazine somewhere, and sent for a
>sample, with all the food us hydroponicers are growing, ideas are always
>welcome on how-to "put it by". It started as a newsletter in 96' and is now
>a nice magazine, well written, and chock- full of recipe's and how-to's on
>canning and preserving foods. The Feb/Mar. issue included an article on
>canning clams, oysters and crab, and a fish article. It's called Home Food
>Preserver's Magazine. pob 719 Brooklyn,MI 49230-0719. I'm not a sales person
>for her, BUT... I would recieve a free issue added to my subscription if you
>mentioned Tim Johanns as having led you to her publication. A lot of stuff
>out there is junk, and when I hear of something worthy or use the same I
>like to pass it on, get the three dollar sample if you're a skeptic, but it
>is truly worthy of a good glance. And this one time...
Hugss,
Angela
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Subject: INFO - Virus adaptations/changes/versions
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 17:53:37 -0500
Since Mother's Day is fast approaching and so many of us also receive mail
from humor lists, thought you might want to check out this URL for updated
info on the ILY virus.
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: post about biodigestion compared to composting
From: "Melvin Landers"
Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:05:40 -0500
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feedback you may be able to offer me, whether positive or negative as I =
am preparing to write several articles about Rauls work with =
biodigestion and organic hydroponics. I would like to ask that you =
address any comments to my email at beaconhrt@positech.net because Raul =
is too buisy to be answering mail right now. He needs time with his =
family as well. I am afraid that I have gotten him into a very big =
project by convincing him that he should get his books translated and =
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simplified scale for poor farmers.=20
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