Aquaponics Digest - Wed 05/17/00
Message 1: Re: Request for Organic Solution recipes
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 2: Re: Request for Organic Solution recipes
from "Melvin Landers"
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Subject: Re: Request for Organic Solution recipes
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 07:47:23 -0500
At 09:41 AM 05/16/2000 -0700, Doug wrote:
>I have not heard about anyone
>introducing worm castings into a closed-loop recirculating aquaponic system.
>Likewise, I havn't heard if there would be any adverse reactions in the aquatic
>environment from using castings. Again, I need more information in this area.
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>This subject is pretty hot on my desk these days--more to come in the future.
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>Doug Peckenpaugh
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>Elisheva Ruth wrote:
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>> If one adds in earthworm castings, or such heavier matter,
>> how would this effect a recirc system and fish needs?
Sorry to come so late into the discussion. We don't "add" earthworm
castings, but do have earthworms (and their castings) present in our system.
I don't believe we've seen any negative reactions from their presence, and
would theorize that they are serving as an intermediate breakdown of a
portion of the fish waste solids. Given their normal presence in an outdoor
pond-side situation, I don't see that they would ever be a problem for fish
needs.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Re: Request for Organic Solution recipes
From: "Melvin Landers"
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:40:22 -0600
I am also late in responding to this topic, But I do have something to add
concerning recipes. Although the information is not ready yet, the
information that Raul is gleening from his books for the handbooks on
Biodigestion and organic hydroponics, once complete, will give useful
information for producing and using the liquid biofertilizer about which so
many of you have asked.
As Doug pekenpaugh has alluded to in his comment about small scale
experimentation, many systems have been suggested. They have worked (or not
worked) to varying degrees. I am confident that the systems Raul has
developed will be proven effective, But, please be patient as we get the
information ready. Even when he is done, it will take some time to insure
that the English version is accurate.
melvin landers
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From: Elisheva Ruth
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Date: Saturday, May 13, 2000 5:02 AM
Subject: Request for Organic Solution recipes
>What are recommended organic growing recipes?
>If one adds in earthworm castings, or such heavier matter,
> how would this effect a recirc system and fish needs?
>Eli
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>>From: "Melvin Landers"
>>To:
>>Subject: Re: Melvin Landers booklets
>>Date: Tue, May 9, 2000, 11:32 PM
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>> Dear Doug,
>> Thank you for your kind offer. That is very nice coming from the
editor
>> of The growing Edge. I'll tell Raul that you are willing to do that. I'm
not
>> sure you are going to go along with it though. Although Raul has nothing
>> against using chemicals for hydroponic solutions, his approach of using
>> nutrient solution produced in a biodigester offers a viable organic
>> alternative.
>> Wouldn't some of your readers be angry with us for presenting this? I had
>> considered submitting an article to you for publication , but, thaught
that
>> we would be tied up for months responding to outraged growers.
>> Arn't some traditional hydroponic growers trying to get their produce
>> labeled as organic? If they could get the government to accept their
produce
>> as organic they could increase their prices. If we barge in with a
workable
>> organically produced solution it would be like reaching into their
pockets
>> to take some of their money from them. I had decided to go with a more
quiet
>> approach and hope that some growers would see the write ups somewhere
else
>> and start presenting it to their collegues from the inside.
>> It's not that we can't provide answeres or take the heat, it's just
that
>> we are both so buisy trying to get some useful information out to poor
>> farmers that we can't afford too many distractions. We do need publicity
to
>> try to arrange for some more research etc. but, we are hoping to keep
>> focused on training subsistance farmers and hopefully still making a
living
>> in our spare time. If you think I am wrong I would be more than happy to
>> hear your views on this. Thank you again for your willingness to look
over
>> the material and give your feedback on it. That is very gracious of you.
>> Sincerely
>> Melvin Landers
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>> From: Doug Peckenpaugh
>> To: Aquaponics Mailing List
>> Date: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 12:02 PM
>> Subject: Melvin Landers booklets
>>
>>
>>>Melvin:
>>>
>>>I tried to send you and e-mail off the list (to beaconhrt@positech.net)
>>>but my e-mail program said that it didn't go through. I would love to go
>>>over the booklets you are putting together on organic and traditional
>>>hydroponics. You can send them to me at this address
>>>(doug@growingedge.com) and I'll provide any feedback I can. Thanks!
>>>
>>>Douglas J. Peckenpaugh
>>>Editor, The Growing Edge
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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