Aquaponics Digest - Wed 01/07/98
Message 1: Re: archives
from "Harrop"
Message 2: gotu kola & beyond
from Miekal And
Message 3: Re: gotu kola & beyond
from "Harrop"
Message 4: the language of abundance
from Miekal And
Message 5: Useful Link (?)
from Gordon Watkins
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Subject: Re: archives
From: "Harrop"
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:22:45 -0500
Concerning gotu kola: a great medicinal plant; however, this plant grows as
a weed in southeast Asia and, with the present currency crisis, I would
hesitate to try to grow it commercially. The import retail price would be
below the production costs.
For those who want a specimen anyway, it is a great hobby plant for the
greenhouse. I am finding people want me to grow specific medicinals for
them so that they can prepare their own household remedies (with the advice
of a qualified herbalist, of course). It seems this method skirts around
the government regulations when it comes to medicinal plants, and puts
cheaper treatments back into the hands of the consumer rather than the
multinationals and bureaucrats. And they know that the preparation actually
contains the actual herb or herbal combinations.
I went to a commercial herb growers conference in '97 and met a researcher
(botany and biochemistry) who did her thesis on adulterants in herb
supplements...she found that 90% of the forty-five prepartions she analysed
were either adulterated or did not even contain what they advertised! Even
some very WELL-KNOWN brands! I will not indicate these on the net for fear
of liability to myself (they have more money than I do and can afford to
keep me in court for a LONG time. Herb supplements are big business.
I encourage people to grow medicinal plants and supply them directly to
certified herbalists and homeopaths and their respective patients. One
thing that consumers have to learn, though, is that there are no magic
bullets or cures: herbal remedies are THERAPIES. Exercise, healthy eating
and some quiet time for ourselves (some call it meditation) often CURES
what ails 90% of us. Herb combinations come in to treat us for that other
10% (ie tonics, anti-oxidants etc.) of the time. Our bodies' NATURAL state
is that of health...and eating healthy food and exercise are probably the
best things that we can treat ourselves with.
I'll get off my soapbox now...thanks for listening. Rob
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Subject: gotu kola & beyond
From: Miekal And
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 12:00:06 +0000
Harrop wrote:
>
> Concerning gotu kola: a great medicinal plant; however, this plant grows as
> a weed in southeast Asia and, with the present currency crisis, I would
> hesitate to try to grow it commercially. The import retail price would be
> below the production costs.
> For those who want a specimen anyway, it is a great hobby plant for the
> greenhouse.
are interest here is providing local organically grown medicinals to the
local bioregion as value-added products. & before that providing enough
for ourselves here at our community. we probably go thru 10lbs a year
here, just as an ingredient to gotu kola chi, which many of us are
"addicted" to. also the ONLY source of gotu kola in the midwest is
frontier herbs, whose quality is very questionable. gotu kola is also
one of those greenhouse plants that can become a beneficient weed in the
cracks & corners where the dandelions grow, & of course loves any input
of nutrients, which is why it flourishes in the open cesspools of india.
miekal
who has been growing all manner of plantlife for 20 years, made very
little money from it, & has absolutely no idea what a hobby plant is.
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Subject: Re: gotu kola & beyond
From: "Harrop"
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:20:02 -0500
Hobby Plant: a plant that is just grown for sheer pleasure of growing it
and learning about it.
Plants and money: Money can be made to support yourself: First, find a
customer or fill a need. Second (and this is the hard part) MARKET yourself
and your product like there is no tomorrow. Rob (a person who has been
growing plants and making money at it who loves plants as a hobby. And
fish. And cats. And birds (hard to keep the cats away from the birds). And
Tai Chi. And especially backyard engineering.)
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Subject: the language of abundance
From: Miekal And
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 13:34:20 +0000
the point Im making is words like "hobby" & "weed" & "exotic" from my
opinionated permaculture perspective relegate & catagorize out of the
realm of lived experience. & turning something into a business doesnt
always equal abundance & wealth. we live in an area where ginseng grows
naturally, & I feel like a very wealthy man because of it. Ive learned
more about the love of the plant world from those that some would
characterize as "hobby" growers then the large majority of market
growers & plant sellers Ive met, partly because to most of them they
guard their information as "business secrets"....
miekal
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Subject: Useful Link (?)
From: Gordon Watkins
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 14:01:47 -0600
Paula and all,
You probably got this yourself off of aqua-l but I thought I would pass
it along just in case for your webpage links. It appears to be new and
not up to full speed yet, particularly regarding email adresses and
websites, but the potential is there. I found many tilapia listings as
well as redclaw and even a couple of pacu listings.
Gordon
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