Aquaponics Digest - Thu 02/19/98





Message   1: Re: Lobsters again
             from "." 

Message   2: [ICIBS'98] 6-30 April: Renewable Resource: Sagopalm
             from "H.Doelle" 

Message   3: Re: Aquaponics- Internet Info, School systems
             from "Ted Ground" 

Message   4: Re: [ICIBS'98] 6-30 April: Renewable Resource: Sagopalm
             from "Ted Ground" 

Message   5: subscription
             from Pawsteve@aol.com

Message   6: Prepackaged Systems
             from S & S Aqua Farm 

Message   7: Re: Lobsters again
             from pperl@ibm.net (Phil)


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Subject: Re: Lobsters again
From:    "." 
Date:    Tue, 17 Feb 1998 02:33:00 -0000

unsubscribe



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Subject: [ICIBS'98] 6-30 April: Renewable Resource: Sagopalm
From:    "H.Doelle" 
Date:    Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:06:54 +1100

I forward this message to you all. From our discussions in both discussion
groups, I get the opinion that some of you might be interested in my
approach to sustainability and socio-economic biotechnology.

As you can see it combines bionergy with aquaponics, as I believe in future
we have to forget our industrial monoproduct thinking to have a better world
and make better use of our resources.

I hope I did not annoy you with this posting.

Horst Doelle

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>Subject:      [ICIBS'98] 6-30 April: Renewable Resource: Sagopalm

>To: Multiple recipients of list IAS-WG08 <

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>Announcement of a forthcoming paper presentation at the Internet Conference

>on Integrated Bio-Systems.

>More information at http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-25860/icibs

>

>+++++please distribute to other discussion groups/lists if

>appropriate++++++++

>

>

>Date:               6-30 April 1998

>Title of Paper:  Socio-economic microbial process strategies

>                      for a sustainable development using environmentally

>                      clean technologies.  Renewable Resource: Sagopalm

>Presented by : Horst W.Doelle, Director of MIRCEN-Biotechnology Brisbane

>                       and the Pacific Regional Network, Australia.

>                       Email: H.Doelle@mailbox.uq.edu.au

>

>URL of Paper:   to be announced later via the list ET-ATLAS

>Mailing list address:      et-atlas@segate.sunet.se

>URL of list:       http://segate.sunet.se/archives/et-atlas.html

>Registration:     e-mail listserv@segate.sunet.se and write :

>                       SUB ET-ATLAS yourfirstname yourlastname, organiza

>tion

>                       e.g. sub et-atlas Horst Doelle, MIRCEN-Brisbane

>

>Abstract :

>In order to secure health with high life expectancy and to become

>self-efficient, which means supply and demand for domestic consumption is

>guaranteed, each government must strive and direct all its efforts towards

>increasing renewable resource production, thereby maintaining or reducing

>its demand by diversification of the staple food and at the same time

>remove health hazardeous wastes. Increased monoculture with a single outlet

>will continue to cause problems to farmers and the ecological environment.

>In order to foster deurbanisation, the farmer has to be offered attractive

>alternatives, which means security through a change froma mono- to a

>multiple-product agricultural industry. This alternative must include clean

>technologies providing the people with a cleaner environment [prevention of

>infectious diseases], food, feed, fertiliser, fuel as well as energy.

>In SEAsia and parts of the Pacific Region, the sagopalm is a unique

>renewable resource and was therefore selected for this presentation. The

>palm grows well in swampy areas unsuitable for other crops, is very

>suitable for humid tropical low lands and contains an average of 160 kg

>starch, which can be increased to 275 kg in a well attended farm. This

>means that an average 25 t of starch/hectare sagopalm cultivation could be

>obtained.  A comprehensive socio-economic integrated biosystem will be

>presented, whereby the sagopalm farm can be used to supply  (1) house

>building material  (2) energy through gasification  (3) mushroom production

> (4) starch flour  (5) ethanol for biofuel  (6) methane or biogas for

>energy  (7) aquaponics and fish production for food  (8) microbial protein

>for animal feed  (9) compost or other residual effluent for organic

>fertilisation of the farm  Such a system would increase self-efficiency on

>the farm, clean environment through reutilisation of the so-called 'waste'

> into value-added products and thus greatly increase the income of the

>farming community.

>

>About the Author:

>Prof. Horst W.Doelle,D.Sc. is a microbial physiologist/biochemist and

>fermentation technology expert and taught these subjects for 29 years at

>the Univ. of Queensland in Australia. Since 1975 he is involved with Unesco

>teaching and educating the developing world in these areas with specific

>emphasis on waste and renewable resource conversion into value-added and/or

>products for the regeneration and sustainability of our ecosystem and

>improving health care, minimising the risks of outbreaks of infectious

>diseases. The field of socio-economic biotechnology and integrated

>biosystems are main areas of concerns in many publications since 1980. The

>author has now retired from the University, but is still engaged in

>teaching and curriculum development in SEAsia and the Pacific Region.

>

>

Horst W.Doelle,D.Sc.

Director, MIRCEN-Biotechnology Brisbane

Chairman, IOBB

Hon.Member of Depts. Microbiology & Chemical Engineering

FAX: +617-38783230

Email: H.Doelle@mailbox.uq.edu.au


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Subject: Re: Aquaponics- Internet Info, School systems
From:    "Ted Ground" 
Date:    Thu, 19 Feb 1998 03:32:22 -0600

Devon Williams,

Here are some Internet resources for you to consider for your small scale
system at school:

There is an Aquaponics Journal out now.  The folks associated with that can
be found at http://www.aquaponics.com.
 
You may know that some high school ag and vocational classes here and there
around the country (including Leander High School here in Texas, I think)
are operating small aquaponics or aquaculture projects at their schools. 
HydroAquatic Technologies supports these students with packaged systems,
design advice and technical support.  They also assist the hobbyists and
amateur
experimenter with backyard systems.  They can be found at
http://www.intercom.net/biz/aquaedu/hatech/index.html.

Personally, I think one can build a system similar to Tom and Paulas out of
materials bought at hardware stores, etc, and do just fine without
resorting to buying someone's packaged system- but that is just my opinion.

Sincerely

Ted Ground
ground@thrifty.net 


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Subject: Re: [ICIBS'98] 6-30 April: Renewable Resource: Sagopalm
From:    "Ted Ground" 
Date:    Thu, 19 Feb 1998 04:23:24 -0600

Horst,

Thank you for the posting.  If it has anything to do with aquaponics, I
would like a reprint or draft of the paper in it's entirety if you can
arrange it.  Since there seems to be other elements incorporated in your
paper- elements which depart from the topic of aquaponics, I have a couple
of questions which I will pose to you via your direct email, rather than
take up the time and space of the aquaponics email group

Ted Ground
ground@thrifty.net 


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Subject: subscription
From:    Pawsteve@aol.com
Date:    Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:15:59 EST

changing address - need instructions
thanks
steve


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Subject: Prepackaged Systems
From:    S & S Aqua Farm 
Date:    Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:36:13 -0600

At 03:32 AM 2/19/98 -0600, Ted Ground wrote:
 
>HydroAquatic Technologies supports these students with packaged systems,
>design advice and technical support.  They also assist the hobbyists and
>amateur
>experimenter with backyard systems.  They can be found at
>http://www.intercom.net/biz/aquaedu/hatech/index.html.
>
>Personally, I think one can build a system similar to Tom and Paulas out of
>materials bought at hardware stores, etc, and do just fine without
>resorting to buying someone's packaged system- but that is just my opinion.
>

Ted, thanks for the input and the positive comments.  I'm curious - is there
anyone in the group that has used/is using a prepackaged system from
HydroAquaTech?  They have pages and pages of information on "aquaponics" at
their site, but I've not had contact with anyone personally who has used
their system(s).

Any comments from the group?

Paula


S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775  417-256-5124
Web page  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/



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Subject: Re: Lobsters again
From:    pperl@ibm.net (Phil)
Date:    Fri, 20 Feb 1998 02:14:36 GMT

On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 18:49:57 -0600, you wrote:

>At 06:19 PM 2/18/98 -0600, Brian Gracia wrote:
>
>Brian - I hope that you receive some answers from the list about =
lobsters.
>Todate our conversations regarding "critters" of this type have been =
about
>Red Claw freshwater crayfish.  I'd post the older messages if you're
>interested.  If there's renewed interest on the list, I could repost to =
the
>group.
>
>Paula
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>
>Which critters are you referring to - still lobsters (rock or spiny), or=
 are
>you interested in the sources and comments regarding Red Claw crayfish?
>
>Paula
>S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775  =
417-256-5124
>Web page  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
>

Paula,

I am new to this list and would like to find out more re: Tilapia. I
currently have two ponds with Bass and Carp (approximately 3/4 acre
total) and am interested in all/any info that might be available. We
are located in the NE, two hours north of NYC not too far from
Woodstock of '69 fame:). Thanks for any help.

                                /* Phil */






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