Aquaponics Digest - Sun 02/07/99
Message 1: Re: Fresh Water Crays in Aquaponics
from "Sam Levy"
Message 2: Re: Attachments
from "KevinLReed"
Message 3: Re: Attachments
from "KevinLReed"
Message 4: TEST
from "KevinLReed"
Message 5: FIND DELETE HAPPY.EXE
from "KevinLReed"
Message 6: FIND DELETE HAPPY.EXE
from "KevinLReed"
Message 7: A few words about Attachments
from Michael Strates
Message 8: Collabrative HUGE Reference
from Michael Strates
Message 9: A new Document!
from Michael Strates
Message 10: Re: Ted
from PattyRagen
Message 11: Re: A new Document!
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 12: Re: Collabrative HUGE Reference
from Chris Hedemark
Message 13: New System Questions
from "Joe Insana"
Message 14: Redclaw Sources in Oz
from Michael Strates
Message 15: Re: A new Document!
from Michael Strates
Message 16: Re: Gravel beds (was Tomato Varieties)
from "Paul T. Juckniess"
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Subject: Re: Fresh Water Crays in Aquaponics
From: "Sam Levy"
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:51:16 PST
Feeding of raw meat products (I'm guessing that you are feeding them raw
meat) can cause fouling of the water in a variety of ways including:
*rapid leaching of nutrients from the feed to the water (increasing the
nutrient load that the system has to convert nitrates & such--which of
course increases the oxygen demand)
*filter fouling--if fed as ground feeds they tend to break up quickly in
water and add to the amount of material that will fill (and often block)
filters including exit filters for outgoing water
*oils--if there are no binders to hold the oils in the feed, it ends up
as surface scum which besides being unsightly can reduce the area of
water-air interface and reduce the exchange of gasses (CO2 & O2) between
the air and water
Also, higher protein feed will increase the amount of Nitrogen going
into the system--even if it is all consumed by the cultured
species--will increase the amount of ammonia that your system has to
render non-toxic (by oxidizing to NO3).
sam
>On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, jilli and lars wrote:
>
>jal> Why not? Is there something about the water that makes you think
this might
>jal> not be a good idea?
>
>No, I just remember somebody advising someone else against it because
of
>the high-protein meat feeds that I/they feed them. I feed my little
>crayfish (they're called yabbies in Australia and are about the same
size
>as prawns which you buy from the supermarket) steak, liver, worms and
>sometimes properly brought feed.
>
>I was wondering - does anybody Australian on this list know if you can
>feed these yabbies anything other than meats. Do they eat plant
material?
>
>Michael,
>
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Subject: Re: Attachments
From: "KevinLReed"
Date: 7 Feb 1999 00:12:52 -0800
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Subject: Re: Attachments
From: "KevinLReed"
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:14:37 -0800
I opened it ... you knew that I would ... it said Happy New Years
and had some pleasent fireworks animations. LOL
Kevin
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Subject: TEST
From: "KevinLReed"
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:43:00 -0800
TES
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Subject: FIND DELETE HAPPY.EXE
From: "KevinLReed"
Date: 7 Feb 1999 01:01:21 -0800
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Subject: FIND DELETE HAPPY.EXE
From: "KevinLReed"
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:03:04 -0800
Hello,
I went to find in my start menu and deleted happy.exe. This seems to have
stopped it for now. I also deleted files listed by Michael Strates in his
email, liste and ska.exe
Kevin
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Subject: A few words about Attachments
From: Michael Strates
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:01:11 +1100 (EST)
Hi,
I know people aren't deliberately sending attachments, however for those
that are considering sending to the list, take this example below:
Johnny wants to send coolimage.jpg which is 12KB to a mailing list because
he finds it funny. The mailing list has 300 subscribers, and Jonny thinks
that nobody will mind because its only 12KB. The list server will need to
send around 3MB outwards. Assuming that the friendly listmaster was being
charged 20c/meg, then he's just been charged 60c for your "funny image".
Just thought I'd emphasise the importance of proper Netiquette even in a
fishy list like this one :). I know I haven't always abided by certain
rules, but I should be quite compliant now.. My sig is only 1 line over
the RFC about signatures, and I never send attachments onto mailing lists.
--
e-mail: mstrates@croftj.net www: http://www.croftj.net/~mstrates
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Subject: Collabrative HUGE Reference
From: Michael Strates
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:05:45 +1100 (EST)
Folks,
I've been throwing this idea around in my head for a /very/ long time, and
thought I'd better suggest this to somebody with the intent of starting up
a project like this.
How would a /huge/ reference on aquaculture, aquaponics, hydroponics and
organoponics go down, written collabrative, say a few pages by each person
on the net, and then tied together and edited to link the documents
together by an editor.
I want to get something like this started, so I ask anyone with any
information on aquaculture in small spaces (say a 40ft x 40ft greenhouse)
to send me all the information they can get (in .txt format)... I'll take
this information, add you to the credits at the end of the document, add
the original document's details to the reference section and then rewrite
the document you've sent to me into a typesetting language so that it can
be both printed in the future and displayed and indexed online.
How many people are interested in doing something like this?
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e-mail: mstrates@croftj.net www: http://www.croftj.net/~mstrates
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Subject: A new Document!
From: Michael Strates
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:28:21 +1100 (EST)
Folks,
I'm proud to say that, yet again I have another very interesting document
relating to aquaculture in my document archive -- freshly written,
designed and edited by me just five days ago. I'm also happy to say that
the goldfish loved the brine shrimp (I didn't know they ate them!)..
Needless to say the yabbies fell in love with the brine shrimp and broke
out into a feeding frenzy when the shrimp began dying.
Announcing.. a Pop Bottle Brine Shrimp Hatchery for feeding your
.. aquaculture setup, Michael Strates 1999.
This document explains how to construct an easy to use brine shrimp
hatchery out of a 2L pop bottle and some various aquarium parts for under
around $10. Purchasing dried brine shrimp eggs and placing them into the
hatchery for hatching significantly decreases the costs of buying
juveniles.
Just e-mail me with
send shrimp
In the subject line to get this mailed to you - completely free as
always.. In an effort to get the best free information available on
aquaculture on the Internet, I am /completely rewriting/ several
aquaculture books and will make it available online for zero dollars.
Remember folks, I still have Dave Paxton's Biogas Series and my plans for
a pop bottle methane digester if anyone is interested. Due to the recent
demand for both of these documents, I think in future I will place all the
docs I happen to release on my webpages.
Cheers,
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e-mail: mstrates@croftj.net www: http://www.croftj.net/~mstrates
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Subject: Re: Ted
From: PattyRagen
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:48:39 EST
Colin,
Was your posting really necessary? I'm interested in Aquaponics not in your
personal problem with someone who has made a positive difference with his
postings. Let's keep it friendly o.k.?
Patty Ragen
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Subject: Re: A new Document!
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 16:02:55 -0600
At 06:28 PM 2/8/99 +1100, Michael Strates wrote:
In an effort to get the best free information available on
>aquaculture on the Internet, I am /completely rewriting/ several
>aquaculture books and will make it available online for zero dollars.
Michael - hope that you're only "completely rewriting" uncopyrighted
materials. Hate to see you hung up with legal troubles.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Re: Collabrative HUGE Reference
From: Chris Hedemark
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:08:35 -0500
Michael Strates wrote:
> I want to get something like this started, so I ask anyone with any
> information on aquaculture in small spaces (say a 40ft x 40ft greenhouse)
> to send me all the information they can get (in .txt format)... I'll take
> this information, add you to the credits at the end of the document, add
> the original document's details to the reference section and then rewrite
> the document you've sent to me into a typesetting language so that it can
> be both printed in the future and displayed and indexed online.
If the documents are composed or stored in SGML, they can be easily
converted to HTML, plain text, etc. This is also the ideal format for
sending to a typesetter.
--
Chris Hedemark
http://www.yonderway.com
Come for a stroll down the Information Dirt Road
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Subject: New System Questions
From: "Joe Insana"
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:40:39 EST
Hi,
I am starting an aquaponics system for several reasons
1) is for teaching my 3 children who are homeschooled,
2)showing the other homeschooled children in our area how plant and
animal life work together
3)and because I myself am very interested in it.
(Not nesessarily in that order)
I have set up a 50 gallon fish tank and a NFT system of 4" pipe with
six(6) 6 footlength pipe that will hold 36 plants and the pump I have
pumps at 200-250gph. The NFT system is set up to gravity drain back to
the fish tank. All of this is set up next to our sliding glass door on
the south side of our house.
I am looking to put in either Tilapia or Yellow Perch(more popular fish
in North Central Ohio) and on the plant side some lettice, basil, and
other mixtures of vegi's.
My questions are related to the bacteria. Do I need a separate area for
a bio-filter or do the plants roots give a place for the bacteria to
grow? How big does the bio-filter need to be? How fast would I need the
water to flow through it. Should it be set up before the plants?
Thank You
Joe Insana
New London, Ohio
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Subject: Redclaw Sources in Oz
From: Michael Strates
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 02:44:32 +1100 (EST)
Hello,
I'm afraid to tell you that Aussie Yabbies, my previous supplier of all
things craylike has vanished. I called them today +613-9331-6197, and a
rude man answered the phone and told me the equivilant of "they're gone,
so [expletive] off and let me get on with my business".
Does anybody know anywhere I can now order yabbie/redclaw eggs that will
send to Melbourne. If they're in Victoria, I'd be quite happy to go and
get them. I'd like to expand my system to include redclaw as well as
yabbies.
Anyone's help would be appreciated.
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e-mail: mstrates@croftj.net www: http://www.croftj.net/~mstrates
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Subject: Re: A new Document!
From: Michael Strates
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 02:46:57 +1100 (EST)
On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, S & S Aqua Farm wrote:
SSAF> Michael - hope that you're only "completely rewriting" uncopyrighted
SSAF> materials. Hate to see you hung up with legal troubles.
I will "draw" on copyrighted material for references and rewrite each
chapter in a different way - modifying, deleting and adding information as
appropriate and not in a way which resembles the original book, nor
include specific exclusive information that the book contains.
People write reports based on the contents of books, so why can't I write
an aquaculture book based on copyrighted references? A legal insight on
this would be helpful.. If I land up in court, I'm under 18 so I really
don't care that much.
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e-mail: mstrates@croftj.net www: http://www.croftj.net/~mstrates
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Subject: Re: Gravel beds (was Tomato Varieties)
From: "Paul T. Juckniess"
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:05:28 -0600 (CST)
>James.rakocy@uvi.edu
> It would be
> very easy to construct a raft system this large. Just build a 16 inch
> perimeter wall an install a liner. Polystyrene sheets that are 4 x 8 ft.
are
> light and easily removed. Most roots are removed with the sheets during
> harvest.
Could you elaborate more on this raft system?
Why do you suggest such a deep system?
Do you provide additional oxygenation to the nutrient solution?
What type of plants have you grown with this system?
Are you using rockwool in net pots?
What type of liner are you using?
Thanks,
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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