Aquaponics Digest - Sun 05/23/99
Message 1: Unsubscribe Remove
from "Glenn Harper"
Message 2: Flowers
from james.rakocy@uvi.edu (James Rakocy, Ph.D.)
Message 3: Re: Chives
from "A Pilling"
Message 4: Re: Chives
from "TGTX"
Message 5: Re: strawberries
from "TGTX"
Message 6: Re: Chives
from "Jim Sealy Jr."
Message 7: Re: strawberries
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 8: Re: Chives
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 9: Re: Flowers
from "William Brown"
Message 10: Algae in Outdoor Pond and Fish to Eat It
from "Clark Allison"
Message 11: Re: Flowers
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 12: Re: Flowers
from "William Brown"
Message 13: flowers
from LC543119
Message 14: Re: strawberries
from "Dan Brentlinger"
Message 15: Re: Chives
from "Dan Brentlinger"
Message 16: Re: Flowers
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 17: Re: Tatsoi
from Jose Pelleya
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Subject: Unsubscribe Remove
From: "Glenn Harper"
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 00:37:12 -0500
I've enjoyed your discussion group, but I need to get removed please.
Thanks
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Subject: Flowers
From: james.rakocy@uvi.edu (James Rakocy, Ph.D.)
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:38:47 -0400 (AST)
What flowers are you growing? Jim R.
>Baby greens are very labor intensive even with their good yields. Make sure
>you get a suitable price. I personally would get out of the business
>because the return is so poor (my wife does it for friends). People only
>pay US$4/lb here. Flowers are much better at US$9/lb.
>William Brown mahiwai@cmpmail.com
>(aka lettuce@hilo.net)
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Subject: Re: Chives
From: "A Pilling"
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:24:21 -0600
In Nancy Bubel's The New Seed-Starters Handbook, it says...Days to
germination: 10 to 14 days at 60 - 70 degrees F. ...When to plant: It's best
to start seeds in January for spring planting, but you can also sow seeds in
open ground as soon as the soil is dry enough to work...
>From this, it sounds like they like colder soil temps to germinate. Hope
this helps. Amy
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Subject: Re: Chives
From: "TGTX"
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:34:27 -0500
Jim Sealy's >
> I can't stand the smell of raw onions, garlic, or the taste of
>tomatoes, though I love growing them.
Jim, you've got me worried about you, now.
Onions, garlic & tomatoes are sort of like catnip to me- especially when
cooked together in various forms, but raw is great too!
Are you, uh, an earthling?
Concerned,
Ted
"There's only 2 things that money cain't buy, and that's true love an'
homegrown tomatoes" - Guy Clark
Ted
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Subject: Re: strawberries
From: "TGTX"
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:36:55 -0500
>I would love to hear more about your set-up for strawberry growing. I
>was under the impression that hydroponic strawberries were not an
>economically feasible crop. With the phase-out of methyl bromate in the
>next year or so there will be a lot of interest in alternatives to
>field-grown or soil-grown strawberries.
>
>Adriana Gutierrez, Sarasota
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Adriana,
Dr. Taketa(?), I believe, at the USDA research station in West Virginia,
grows strawberries in trout pond effluent using NFT troughs in his
greenhouse. Don't know how the economics are working out for him, though.
Ted
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Subject: Re: Chives
From: "Jim Sealy Jr."
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:48:50 -0500
Hey Ted,
I know I'm a little weird, but... I'll hurt somebody over not getting my
share of
batter fried tomato slices or onion rings at a fish fry, and you've gotta
have my
home grown picanti paste on burgers. It's sort of somewhere between catsup,
salsa
(learned my favorite recipe from an old guy in Throckmorton, TX years ago), and
pepper relish (chow chow), only it looks like greenish tomato paste.
Only garlic
I like is salt pickled.
Jim
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Subject: Re: strawberries
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:48:49 -0400
Hey Ted!
I've been there! I went to the USDA facility in West Virginia last
June. They had discontinued the strawberry research at that time. The
research was primarily on the effectiveness of the plants in cleaning up
the effluent for subsequent release into the streams. They also tested
the grow-towers and showed how yields were compromised on the lower
levels. I think I recall that they were going to be publishing some
information on the economics but haven't looked into it since.
Adriana
> Dr. Taketa(?), I believe, at the USDA research station in West Virginia,
> grows strawberries in trout pond effluent using NFT troughs in his
> greenhouse. Don't know how the economics are working out for him, though.
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Subject: Re: Chives
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:51:15 -0400
Thanks Amy,
The next time I do my Air Conditioned lettuce germination process I'll
do test strip of chives. My original seeding is finally up (50% maybe)
and starting to grow multiple leaves so from now on I'll divide as
needed.
Adriana
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Subject: Re: Flowers
From: "William Brown"
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 06:52:13 -1000
Nasturtiums, Pineapple Sage, garlic (seasonal), Red bean (have to check name
on that one). Looking at other additions. The Nasturtiums alone will get
US$9/lb.
William Brown mahiwai@cmpmail.com
(aka lettuce@hilo.net)
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Subject: Algae in Outdoor Pond and Fish to Eat It
From: "Clark Allison"
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:52:12 PDT
Is there a good variety of hardy fish that will live in Kentucky and will
eat the floating type of algae often found in outdoor ponds? Anyone with
information please respond.
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Subject: Re: Flowers
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:33:08 -0400
William,
Do you find that your customers for the flowers are regular weekly
buyers or is it all occasional special occasion purchases? Just curious
how to market flowers. Also about packaging and counts.
Adriana
> Nasturtiums, Pineapple Sage, garlic (seasonal), Red bean (have to check name
> on that one). Looking at other additions. The Nasturtiums alone will get
> US$9/lb.
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Subject: Re: Flowers
From: "William Brown"
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:01:40 -1000
We have two customers we sell to, we could find more but generally stay with
the lettuce as the salad mix market is not as profitable laborwise as the
fresh lettuce market. We sell flowers to the a person who makes the salad
mix and sells it. We only grow the ingredients, she preps and sells. A
friend of ours so it works out. The other place is a natural food store
that has a lunch and salad bar. They buy all the flowers we bring and still
buy from others. A third place we don't sell to but buys flowers is a fancy
pizza joint with salad bar. They also pay US$36 (you know I made an error,
we're getting $9 for 1/4lb of flowers of $36/lb). General guideline find a
high end (read gourmet) food preparer that likes eye appeal and if they
don't use flowers talk them in to a trial. We have a lot of fancy
restaurants in Hawaii at the resort areas. I don't really know anyone else
selling flowers but there seems to always be a demand as if the market isn't
being satisfied. We get lots of requests for Daylilly flowers but it is hard
to find small flowers. Also all orchid flowers are edible and requested
frequently.
PS the red bean I mentioned is actually called the Scarlet Runner Bean. Two
varieties, one with a red flower the other with a pink coral color. Very
pretty and nice flavor with a good nuttyness to it. Easy to grow and keep
alive.
William Brown mahiwai@cmpmail.com
(aka lettuce@hilo.net)
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Subject: flowers
From: LC543119
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:38:53 EDT
Adriana, Give Marjorie a call she has been selling flowers in phili for years
Gordon C.
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Subject: Re: strawberries
From: "Dan Brentlinger"
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:52:31 -0400
Ted & Adriana,
There was an article published on the results of the research done growing
strawberries in NFT and towers. I know I've got a copy of it in my files and
will locate it if anyone is interested.
Dan
brent@cropking.com
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Subject: Re: Chives
From: "Dan Brentlinger"
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:53:23 -0400
Jim,
I'd love to have that recipe for picanti paste! Do you have a good one for
salsa too?
Dan
brent@cropking.com
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Subject: Re: Flowers
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:55:05 -0400
William,
I had a neighbor when I lived in Virginia who had a beautiful minature
daylilly plant. Are you familiar with such a variety? I think he got
his from Park Nursery. Thanks for sharing the infor on flowers, I'll
tuck it into my future testing folder...It goes to show that all it
takes is a couple of good customers to have a nice business.
Adriana
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Subject: Re: Tatsoi
From: Jose Pelleya
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:02:20 -0600
Adriana:
I've got the catalog.
So, I'm only 10 months behind? I thought it was years!!
Jose
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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