Aquaponics Digest - Thu 06/17/99
Message 1: Re: Bugs!
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 2: Fwd. Update from ATTRA
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 3: Re: Bugs!
from "William Brown"
Message 4: Re: Bugs!
from "SULFERCREEK"
Message 5: Re: Bugs!
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 6: Re: Bugs!
from "William Brown"
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Subject: Re: Bugs!
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:08:49 -0400
What an interesting idea Dave. I assume that 1 tablespoon per gallon is
sufficient? How often do you spray and is a sticker-spreader necessary?
> use black strap molasses mixed in water and spray this on the plants,this
> gives the plant a false brix reading. When a bug eats a high sugar plant
> ,the sugar turns to alcohol and kills the bug,they can tell when a plant has
> high sugar so they stay away
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Subject: Fwd. Update from ATTRA
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:48:49 -0500
>From: "Steve Diver"
>To: S & S Aqua Farm
>Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:41:09 +0000
>Subject: Update from ATTRA
>
>Hi Paula,
>
>Just recently I completed an update to the Aquaponics resource packet
>we send out from ATTRA on request from farmers. Aquaponics is still
>a hot topic. The new version includes a number of web links on
>aquaponics as well as pointers to newer resources, including the
>manual published by The Freshwater Institute.
>
>Later this summer, I hope to get back to the aquaponics topic and
>turn the resource packet into a regular ATTRA publication which will
>then be available in print version as well as on the ATTRA web page.
>
>This fall, we will be updating the Organic Greenhouse Vegetable
>Production and Hydroponic Vegetable Production publications
>first published in 1995.
>
>New greenhouse-related publications on the ATTRA web page
>include:
>
>Integrated Pest Management for Greenhouse Crops
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/gh-ipm.html
>
>Greenhouse IPM: Sustainable Thrips Control
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/gh-thrips.html
>
>Greenhouse IPM: Sustainable Aphid Control
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/gh-aphids.html
> The aphid pub is done and available in print; it will
> soon be added to the web page
>
>Other greenhouse-related publications from ATTRA, published in
>the last year or so, include:
>
>Organic Potting Mixes
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/potmix.html
>
>Disease Suppressive Potting Mixes
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/dspotmix.html
>
>Compost Teas for Plant Disease Control
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/comptea.html
>
>Use of Baking Soda as a Fungicide
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/baksoda.html
>
>Solar Greenhouse
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/solar-gh.html
>
>Season Extension Techniques for Market Gardeners
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/seasext.html
>
>After June 20th I will be away for 3-weeks traveling in Russia,
>working with vegetable farmers near Estonia. When I return I hope to
>get back in touch and hopefully stop by for a visit when I'm in
>Missouri this fall.
>
>Steve Diver
>ATTRA
>steved@attra.org
>http://www.attra.org
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Subject: Re: Bugs!
From: "William Brown"
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:52:42 -1000
I like soap for aphids. I also like to mix an agricultural oil with my soap
to suffocate some of the critters.
Thrips can be drowned I'm told, spray 3 times a day or so. If it's dry a
water trap may work better, keep the ground under a bush damp until the
season passes. These are hardest to control.
No experience with cutworms or army worms but there may be a Bt made just
for them.
Neem is labeled for everything you have eating your crops (some say Thrips,
some don't). Doesn't affect the adults, just the young.
I like the 4Gal Shindaiwa back pack sprayer and it's cheaper here than the
Solos.
Tell me more about the Naturalis.
William Brown mahiwai@cmpmail.com
(aka lettuce@hilo.net)
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Subject: Re: Bugs!
From: "SULFERCREEK"
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:37:39 -0400
we used 1.5 qt per acre,so 1tbs should do it
sticky enough
redo as you feel you need no harmful chemicals ,if out doors may need more
often
dave
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From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: Bugs!
> What an interesting idea Dave. I assume that 1 tablespoon per gallon is
> sufficient? How often do you spray and is a sticker-spreader necessary?
>
> > use black strap molasses mixed in water and spray this on the
plants,this
> > gives the plant a false brix reading. When a bug eats a high sugar
plant
> > ,the sugar turns to alcohol and kills the bug,they can tell when a plant
has
> > high sugar so they stay away
>
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Subject: Re: Bugs!
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:43:54 -0400
Hi William,
As usual, thanks for your wonderful advice. I've been using M-Pede
which is Safer soap and it's quite effective for aphids on most plants
if I'm diligent about spraying on a 3-day cycle at the first sign of
trouble. The toughest plant to control them on is the Red Giant
Mustard, aphids seem to love it. I got rid of their other favorites,
the Kales.
By the way, I've gotten some Revolution seed in and have just started to
harvest it at the baby stage. The color is good on the ends of the
leaves but still very green in the inner 2/3 of the leaf. Could this be
because I have them seeded very close together? Will the whole leaf
turn red if I space them out? Two other red lettuce trials have landed
in my compost heap - Redina, forget it , no red there at all.
Cardinales - the prettiest, scalloped leaves you ever saw, good tasting,
nice texture; unfortunately a lovely green instead of the red I was
looking for. I may consider it for my mix if I need a green.
I don't know if my back can handle 4 gallons, perhaps a cart is the way
to go.
> I like the 4Gal Shindaiwa back pack sprayer and it's cheaper here than the
> Solos.
> Tell me more about the Naturalis.
For information on Naturalis-O check out this web site:
http://www.sepro.com/horticulture/in_bloom/july1998.htm
Adriana
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Subject: Re: Bugs!
From: "William Brown"
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:57:35 -1000
----- Original Message -----
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: Bugs!
>The toughest plant to control them on is the Red Giant
> Mustard, aphids seem to love it. I got rid of their other favorites,
> the Kales.
Haven't had much trouble with those, maybe they're entering your facility in
that area. We generally get them on the lettuce and mizuna and only
infrequently. Each year seems to produce a different infestation of pests.
Last year was thrips, this year was aphids. Two years ago don't think we
had any infestations.
> By the way, I've gotten some Revolution seed in and have just started to
> harvest it at the baby stage. The color is good on the ends of the
> leaves but still very green in the inner 2/3 of the leaf. Could this be
> because I have them seeded very close together? Will the whole leaf
> turn red if I space them out?
I just started growing the revolution so have very little experience. If
the seed sprouts are dark red they stay that way. If the sprouts start with
lots of green they can be hard to change to all red. Are you feeding them
the same as green lettuce? I really haven't figure out what to do about the
red color but have been getting mostly dark red of late. I don't think it's
the spacing. Remember that a darker red color comes from stress so don't be
overly nice to your reds, maybe dry them out/heat them up a little.
> Two other red lettuce trials have landed
> in my compost heap - Redina, forget it , no red there at all.
> Cardinales - the prettiest, scalloped leaves you ever saw, good tasting,
> nice texture; unfortunately a lovely green instead of the red I was
> looking for. I may consider it for my mix if I need a green.
Same here.
> I don't know if my back can handle 4 gallons, perhaps a cart is the way to
go.
Well, you don't have to fill it up. I find that 4 gals will do about 2000
sq ft. If you're way over that then a labor saving cart can be justified.
I spray as infrequently as possible trying to encourage the natural
predators. I am not screened in of course. I don't like them, but I have a
lot of spiders. They're fun to watch in the evening as they dive out of the
rafters on to flying prey in mid-air.
> Adriana
>
William Brown mahiwai@cmpmail.com
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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