Aquaponics Digest - Sat 07/17/99




Message   1: Alternative dietary protein sources for farmed tilapia

             from Jacky Foo 

Message   2: Key Lime Cichlids/Klingon Ponderings

             from "TGTX" 

Message   3: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Tue  07/13/99

             from Gail Hall 

Message   4: Tilepia advice needed again

             from Bagelhole1

Message   5: Insectary

             from William Evans 

Message   6: Re: Tilepia advice needed again

             from Craig & Robin Prince 

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Subject: Alternative dietary protein sources for farmed tilapia

From:    Jacky Foo 

Date:    Sat, 17 Jul 1999 07:20:08 +0200

The Journal  AQUACULTURE (ISSN : 0044-8486) Vol./Iss. : 179 / 1-4 has 

announced a paper entitled "Alternative dietary protein sources for farmed 

tilapia, Oreochromis spp." by El-Sayed , Abdel-Fattah M. pp.: 149-168. I 

have not seen the paper but if someone have easy access to this journal, 

please give us more information on the types of protein sources used or 

suggested in this article. The email addresses of the authors are usually 

provided in the paper and it would good to have them for requests for 

reprints.

Thanks

jacky foo

http://www.ias.unu.edu/proceedings/icibs/ibs

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Subject: Key Lime Cichlids/Klingon Ponderings

From:    "TGTX" 

Date:    Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:22:27 -0500

Drifter Bob's Key Lime Cichlid Recipe

(from a magazine article)

Serves 2 people.  Ingredients: 4 filets. 8-12 key limes.  One clove of

garlic (much more if you are anything like me)  A large white onion.  Chives

(or green onions). Basil, Rosemary, or other herbs. Salt, pepper, and

Tabasco sauce (or, Dave's Totally Insane Habanero sauce for those cave

diving, bungy chord jumping, raw oyster eating, muy loco Texans with some

kinda death wish).

Preheat the oven to 400 degrees.  Cut all of the limes and squeeze the juice

into a cup.  Chop the onion and the chives, and cut the garlic clove into

small slivers.  Place the 4 filets in a baking dish or aluminum pan, and

place slivers of garlic on them.  Garnish with pieces of chopped onion and

chives, and sprinkle with salt, pepper, a few drops of Tabasco sauce per

filet, (or only 1 drop of Totally Insane sauce somewhere inside the dish or

within a 10 foot radius of the filets), and uh, the herbs, on top.  Next

pour the lime juice into your baking dish, and place it uncovered into the

oven.  The filets and onions should be nearly submerged in lime juice.

Allow them to broil for about 15 to 20 minutes, until the lime juice begins

to "seethe".  Finally, revove the baking dish, drain all of the lime juice

out, back into your cup, and then return the dish bak to the oven for 10

more minutes, or until the filets begin to look slightly crisp and brown on

top.  Remove the filets and serve with rice and a side dish of spinach,

asparagus, or green beans.  The reclaimed lime juice should be used as a

sauce for both rice and fish.  Enjoy!

Personal Note: These filets should be THICK- from a big fish, otherwise

reduce the lime juice amount and cooking time accordingly.  You have my

permission to substitute aquaponic Pacu, Arawana, or sunfish, in lieu of the

cichlids.

Mammels, Avians, Arthropods, Annelids or other protein sources may be

substituted, but only if you insist, or, if you are Klingon- in which case

the bits about the oven and rendering the animal in question lifeless need

not come into the equation.

Which reminds me of an old  joke I just made up.

"Why are Klingons always in a foul mood?"

"Hey, wouldn't YOU have a migraine if you woke up every morning with a

horseshoe crab spiked into your forehead?"

"Now get outta here, and I mean it!"

Love ya, man

Ted (it's a Cinderella story) Ground

Still alive;

(but not life as we know it, Jim)

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Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Tue  07/13/99

From:    Gail Hall 

Date:    Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:28:32 -0700

>Subject: Lacewings and other beneficial insects

>From:    Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta 

>Date:    Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:07:18 -0400

>

>I'm looking into introducing lacewings into my greenhouse for

>genaeral-purpose pest control and am coming across radically different

>recommendations and pricing. 

>

>Recommended # larvae - 

>- Local distributor - 1,000 per 2,500 square feet

>- Gardens Alive! - 1,000 per 200-900 square feet (900 is for preventive)

>

>Price

>-  Local distributor $25/1,000 larvae, $16/5,000 eggs

>-  Gardens Alive! - $12-14 / 1,000 Larvae/eggs (depends on species)

>

>Is this a case of "pay peanuts, get monkeys?" or am I paying a premium

>for going through a middleman? 

>

>Has anybody had any experience using Trichogramma parasites to control

>worms?  Gardens Alive! has a package deal called "Attack Squad" which is

>3 bi-weekly shipments of 1,000 lacewings and  8,000 trichogramma for

>ONLY $54.75 (chaching$$!)

>

>Adriana Gutierrez

>Green Cuisine

>Sarasota, Fl.

Hi, Adriana,

I am very happy with a company called Nature's Control, P.O. Box 35, 

Medford, OR 97501, 541 899-8318 and Fax 541 899 9121. Check out their 

prices. Very helpful people.

Gail Hall, Tender Greens

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Subject: Tilepia advice needed again

From:    Bagelhole1

Date:    Sat, 17 Jul 1999 15:42:47 EDT

Hi everyone,

                        I'm wondering what's best to feed tilepia, if algae 

is going to form if the sun hits the water in the greenhouse and if they can 

live off the algae, or I would think they would need something else initially 

and to supplement. I don't have them yet, I'm still building. Also, I was 

going to line the trenches with heavy plastic, now, someone has said that 

fish hate plastic and it may leech toxics into the water.  I'm thinking, 

hoping one solar pump will be adaquate to pump the fish water thru tubes to 

the plants. And I've been thinking of fish poo (lovely thoughts), is it so 

heavy that it can't be squirted in the water to the plants, will I need a 

biolfilter? If Any advice would appreciate it, Ron? 

                                                                                

                                                Thank you,

                                                                                

                                                Tom O (bagelhole1)

                                                                                

                        http://bagelhole. hypermart.net

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Subject: Insectary

From:    William Evans 

Date:    Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:53:59 -0700

William Evans wrote:

> 

> Try these folks, been around long time

> billevans

> http://www.rinconvitova.com/

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Subject: Re: Tilepia advice needed again

From:    Craig & Robin Prince 

Date:    Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:22:05 -0700

Hello Tom ,

Sounds like your getting started and that's good.  But one thing everyone on

this

chat will tell you is to get started on the right foot.  I will give you the

same

advise that was given to me and it saved me many/many headaches.  Hear it is -

Contact Tom & Paula at S&S Aquafarms and purchase their Information packet/ you

will not be disappointed and this will give more than enough info to get started

one the right foot.

lots of luck

Craig

S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775  417-256-5124

Web page  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/



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