Aquaponics Digest - Sat 07/24/99




Message   1: Re: Humorless

             from "Jim Sealy Jr." 

Message   2: Hope this is all I'll need to know to start the fishfarming

             from Bagelhole1

Message   3: Re: Humorless

             from "Marcy L. Nameth" 

Message   4: Re: Hope this is all I'll need to know to start the fishfarming

             from "grizzly" 

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Subject: Re: Humorless

From:    "Jim Sealy Jr." 

Date:    Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:02:36 -0500

Hi Ted,

I suspect you can skip any tests of humorlessness.  

I'm sure

most will agree, we enjoy your posts much more _with_ the humor. ;)

Jim

> TGTX wrote:

> 

> Humorless Test

> Excuse the experiment in progress.

> 

> Ted

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Subject: Hope this is all I'll need to know to start the fishfarming

From:    Bagelhole1

Date:    Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:07:40 EDT

Hi, 

        I was hoping for some more help. I am constructing a low-cost 

greenhouse with trenches around the perimeter to grow tilepia and organic 

vegetables, in vertical structures made out of 2 liter plastic pop bottles to 

hold the plants, with tubing going thru the bottles to the fish water and 

back again. The tubes will have little perforations to water the root balls. 

I need to buy a solar pump with battery.

I am trying to be a model for low-tech sustainability. I am under a 

non-profit and am working to create community food security. Also, the 

project is developing an ever-improving list of low-tech ideas/methods to 

share over the internet to help individuals become relatively 

self-sustainable before 2000 and to be a model for their neighborhoods. My 

website, which is awaiting volunteer webdesigners to fix to make it "truly 

effective" is 

http://bagelhole.hypermart.net/ 

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My take on y2k is that no one can tell what is going to happen, but the 

possibility that it could be big is not remote enough to ignore. I think 

there is a lot of denial around. 

I am a little bit fearful that my efforts may not be successful. I am hoping 

that you might have a moment to respond with a little guidance. I still need 

to know where to buy the tilepia, which type, which size (need to be ready by 

1/1 2000), whether they all need to be male, and how long it usually takes to 

get them. My trench is roughly 22'x 2'x 2 1/2'. I intend to cover the 

trenches with a heavy plastic. I'm not sure what to feed the fish -  pellets, 

worms, and/or algae (if that grows in the trenches). Whether or not I will 

need a biofilter, I guess a timer for the pump ( how large a pump, and which 

one). How long it takes to get the fish and who is the best to order from. 

As you can see, I am a beginner with a time consideration. I want to be a 

model so that others can do the same thing, in the Bay Area (San Francisco), 

and elsewhere over the internet. I would be happy to credit you and hope that 

you will have the time to respond. Thanks for your consideration,

                                                                                

                Tom Osher

                                                                                

                Tax id 94-3111898                       

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Subject: Re: Humorless

From:    "Marcy L. Nameth" 

Date:    Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:32:36 -0700

I always thought he was serious!

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Subject: Re: Hope this is all I'll need to know to start the fishfarming

From:    "grizzly" 

Date:    Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:51:59 -0400

Hello Tom,I'm sure your cause is a noble one,wanting to teach people how to

become self-sufficient,in the event of a crisis,but at this late point in

time,(less than 5 months),it seems unlikely that you could

design,constuct,learn how to operate and produce and then teach

unknowledgeable people how to survive on this type of system.The following

reasons being:1.It takes a lot of trial and error,to be productive.2.It

takes time to become proficient,probably longer than the crisis would

last,if it were to happen.3.The urban populace will be the ones who would

most likely suffer from food shortages,therefore most of them will lack the

space needed to construct this type of setup.4.The money that would be

expended on a project of this type,would go a long way towards buying can

goods and other staples for survival.5.Opening cans is a much safer option

than crop failure,when you're hungry.6.Food storage will be another

problem,if the power goes out,there won't be any freezers,no power no

manufacturing,=shortage of canning jars.7. Those of who can,be

prepared,share with those who have need,and everyone will be fine. I'm sure

your intentions are well,but are they well thought out? Sincerely Griz

S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775  417-256-5124

Web page  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/



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