Aquaponics Digest - Fri 08/20/99
Message 1: pond software
from MUDDTOO
Message 2: Jamaica neighbourly visit
from dreadlox@cwjamaica.com (michael kent barnett)
Message 3: Re: Greenhouse Tomatoes
from William Evans
Message 4: Solar pumps
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 5: Re: Greenhouse Tomatoes
from "Steve Paden"
Message 6: RE: Medicinal herbs
from "Donna Fezler"
Message 7: RE: small family set up
from "Merriken, Michael"
Message 8: RE: Medicinal herbs
from "Ronald W. Brooks"
Message 9: Re: Medicinal herbs
from William Evans
Message 10: Re: Greenhouse Tomatoes
from "grizzly"
Message 11: Re: Medicinal herbs
from "grizzly"
Message 12: Re: Medicinal herbs
from William Evans
Message 13: Re: Medicinal herbs
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 14: Re: pond software
from dbenhart@essex1.com (David Benhart)
Message 15: Re: Greenhouse Tomatoes
from "vpage"
Message 16: Re: pond software
from MUDDTOO
Message 17: unsubscribe
from "greg bachman"
Message 18: Re: pond software
from Jon Hays
Message 19: Re: Jamaica neighbourly visit
from atkindw@cwjamaica.com (david w atkinson)
Message 20: RE: Medicinal herbs
from atkindw@cwjamaica.com (david w atkinson)
Message 21: Re: pond software
from atkindw@cwjamaica.com (david w atkinson)
Message 22: Re: pond software
from MUDDTOO
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Subject: pond software
From: MUDDTOO
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:01:43 EDT
Hi all,
I came across some interesting software used to help setup a fish pond. It
seems to cover all areas. Check it out and download it free.
http://biosys.bre.orst.edu/pond/download.htm
joel
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Subject: Jamaica neighbourly visit
From: dreadlox@cwjamaica.com (michael kent barnett)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:06:53 +0100
Mr Creaser, my number is ++876 9833829, please call me when in Xaymaca
(jamaica land of wood and water...)
To the group... its funny when we islanders see by the server extension
a fellow islander on "our" newsgroup...well since last week David
Atkinson and I finally caught up per phone and met tonight and have been
chatting here till now after 1 am!!
The biggest joke is guys.... he lives just 5 minutes down the road from
me!! :) We had a great time.. aquapondering...
Who to tell maybe that shy neighbour is really a lurking aquaponic freak
like yourself?? I was really amused to realise we were so close..
In fact, Mr. Creaser and others, if ever in Jamaica, please contact
either of us, we would like to drive down together and visit you on this
farm, also for those interested in consulting, training etc.
Voluntary work anyone.. ;)
Joyous Aquaponikering!!
(Love your neighbour as yourself cuz you never know if he's the netpal
on your newsgroup???... or how did it go??)
Smile......
MikeB.
LC543119 wrote:
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> Mikey, sorry I lost your # on last visit, I will be back on the 26th at
> Rosehill Farms come visit.
> gordon
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Subject: Re: Greenhouse Tomatoes
From: William Evans
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:49:47 -0700
I grow brandy's everyyear...its a fussy critter..too much, not enuf
soil moisture, the fruit splits or blossom end rot..It is worth growing
as the taste is superb.....One thing tho it isnt so much the lineage of
a plant that determines its taste..It's more the growing conditions,
nutrients available..Ive grown lousy tasting brandies, and ones that
were very sweet, it's all in the soil(or in this forum -fish poop&
associated biota) The plants w/ sprawl BIGTIME iff lots of root space,
so be prepared to thin,and trellis them ..In my case one plant every 4
feet is enuf
bill evans
san diego
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Subject: Solar pumps
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:46:19 -0400
Marc,
How much do the pump and charging system cost? Also how many gallons
per hour can it handle?
Adriana
> I use the battery operated sump pump setup from Simer and
> add a solar powered charging system whenever I have a solar
> customer who needs a pretty good flow without much pressure
> for the lowest price.
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Subject: Re: Greenhouse Tomatoes
From: "Steve Paden"
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:55:59 PDT
I have used a variety from "Totally Tomatoes" called "Presto" with good
success. The fruit are medium-sized, uniformly colored and nice, round
shaped - very good for fresh markets. This variety is intended for
greenhouse use only, and does not do well outside.
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Subject: RE: Medicinal herbs
From: "Donna Fezler"
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 06:24:01 -0500
Here is a problem I hit with the FDA. It may pertain to fish also that are
living in water where the plants are grown.
I recently learned the herbal supplements
I use to keep my toxin-sensitive rhea chicks alive are not approved for use
in food animals by the FDA. I am having to submit the questionable items of
the feed formula for review. Since we are a minor species with a
particularly bad mortality problem (80-100%) they feel the items I mentioned
on the phone should not be a problem.
The US Dietary Supplement Act does not extend to animals. I mistakenly
assumed this act extended to animals and had designed a supplement to
provide liver support which I intended to sell to the rhea growers. I am
having to get approval to use milk thistle seeds, dandelion, Echinacea,
goldenseal, the same supplement I can sell for humans, insect protein, grape
seed extract, and other high quality antioxidants found in human
formulations but not feed formulas. Even then we will be restricted to a
long withdrawal time if they get approved at all. Furthermore,
intentionally planting the flora in the bird pens would be in violation of
the feed laws.
Donna Fezler
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From: aquaponics [SMTP:aquaponics]
On Behalf Of Watkins, Leanne
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 11:09 PM
To: 'aquaponics@townsqr.com'
Subject: Medicinal herbs
Importance: High
I am in the process of starting up a small aquaponics facility. I was
wondering if anyone out there is growing medicinal herbs or alternative
crops such as aloe-vera, jojoba etc. Can you tell me how they do in this
type of system.
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Subject: RE: small family set up
From: "Merriken, Michael"
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:19:46 -0400
I guess I will let it grow.
Thanks,
Michael
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From: Ronald W. Brooks [mailto:orchid@kellnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 11:12 PM
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Subject: RE: small family set up
Michael
Is there a reason besides aesthetics you want to get rid of the algae.
Tilapia will feed off of it. U.V.I> has been developing a system that uses
greenwater ( algae ) and have had spectacular results . I on the other hand
have been trying to get algae to grow in my tanks especially the fry tanks.
Ron
The One Who Walks Two Paths
ICQ 44271371
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Subject: RE: Medicinal herbs
From: "Ronald W. Brooks"
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:30:58 -0400
There is an article in the Volume 5 #1 ( dec98 / Jan 99 ) issue of
Aquaponics magazine about growing medicinal herbs in an Aquaponic setup.
they list Aloe , Angelica , Echinachea, Feverfew, mint, St. John's Wart,
Yarrow as growable in an aquaponics setup.
Ron
The One Who Walks Two Paths
ICQ 44271371
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Subject: Re: Medicinal herbs
From: William Evans
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:10:42 -0700
Oh boy what about free range rhea's? AAAre yo usaying that this is a
nono?..... THat a buerokrat inspecting your farm would say to you, "get
those "unapproved"weeds outa that pasture!?..I can understand their
caution (vaguely)if you market this product to others, but, to deny
your birds to "freerange" on your pasture(adulterated or not) is absurd,
unless of course they had an appetite for "datura"(jimson weed) or other
like"possible forage". Keep up the battle
billevans
Donna Fezler wrote:
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> Here is a problem I hit with the FDA. It may pertain to fish also that are
> living in water where the plants are grown.
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> I recently learned the herbal supplements
> I use to keep my toxin-sensitive rhea chicks alive
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Subject: Re: Greenhouse Tomatoes
From: "grizzly"
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:54:48 -0400
Do you have an address for totally tomatoes? Thanks
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Subject: Re: Medicinal herbs
From: "grizzly"
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:01:05 -0400
-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Fezler
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 8:58 AM
Subject: RE: Medicinal herbs
I was wondering,is there any chance of medicinal herbs killing the
beneficial bacteria in an aquaponic system?
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Subject: Re: Medicinal herbs
From: William Evans
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:12:28 -0700
> I was wondering,is there any chance of medicinal herbs killing the
> beneficial bacteria in an aquaponic system?
Prolly, depending on the herb, but, only in rare instance IMO.
Many essential oils good at killing stuff but then your not exactly
grinding up the herbs and mixing them intho the water.
I would wager tho that in many instances a longer drain fill cycle
time would be in order as many herbs make much more essential oil-if
that's your goal- when stressed,even then I dont believe it would be
expressed in a "root exudate" into the water.
billevans
not an herb expert(jus shootin from the hip here)
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Subject: Re: Medicinal herbs
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:12:47 -0500
At 04:01 PM 08/20/1999 -0400,Griz wrote:
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Donna Fezler
>To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
>Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 8:58 AM
>Subject: RE: Medicinal herbs
>I was wondering,is there any chance of medicinal herbs killing the
>beneficial bacteria in an aquaponic system?
Can only answer for the echinacea as far as our experience goes, and we did
not have entire systems mono-cropping it. It was planted in the same system
with other herbs, greens and fruiting crops. Never noticed any difference
in the system performance that would indicate a bacterial lessening.
Did you have any other specific medicinals in mind?
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Re: pond software
From: dbenhart@essex1.com (David Benhart)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:52:03 -0500
unable to access url. any help?
MUDDTOO wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> I came across some interesting software used to help setup a fish pond. It
> seems to cover all areas. Check it out and download it free.
> http://biosys.bre.orst.edu/pond/download.htm
> joel
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Subject: Re: Greenhouse Tomatoes
From: "vpage"
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:41:15 -0600
sorry-they did well in my greenhouse but slow growing
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From: grizzly=20
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com=20
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: Greenhouse Tomatoes
Hi V, I'm familar with Brandywine,but do they do well in a greenhouse =
enviroment?I'm looking for a good sandwich tomato to sell this =
winter.Thanks Grizzly
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From: vpage
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Date: Thursday, August 19, 1999 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: Greenhouse Tomatoes
I haven't been watching what you are growing the tomatoes for but =
there is a heritage tomato that is probably the sweetest one you can =
grow. It is called Brandywine. It comes in yellow and red. It is quite =
large and indescribably delicious!
VPage=20
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Subject: Re: pond software
From: MUDDTOO
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:44:24 EDT
It works okay at my end. You'll need to cut and paste the address or type it
in directly. It's a great program that will calculate everything I could
think of.
It even allows you to project the fish weight when given the type, food
quanity, and enviroment. Try it again.
joel
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Subject: Re: pond software
From: Jon Hays
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:38:04 -0600
At 05:44 PM 08/20/1999 , you wrote:
>http://biosys.bre.orst.edu/pond/download.htm
I could not get this url to work, do you have it right.
Thanks
John
John Hays
1903 Pebble Hill Rd.
Carlsbad, NM 88220
1-505-887-0102
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Subject: Re: Jamaica neighbourly visit
From: atkindw@cwjamaica.com (david w atkinson)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:49:27 -0500
Cheers Mike too true. :-)
david
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Subject: RE: Medicinal herbs
From: atkindw@cwjamaica.com (david w atkinson)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:51:58 -0500
Hi Ron,
Could you post the details of where I could obtain a copy of the Aquaponics
magazine you mention.
david
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Subject: Re: pond software
From: atkindw@cwjamaica.com (david w atkinson)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:01:40 -0500
Hi Joel,
I could not access the site. I got the message that the server is not
responding or could be down.
David
>Hi all,
>
>I came across some interesting software used to help setup a fish pond. It
>seems to cover all areas. Check it out and download it free.
>http://biosys.bre.orst.edu/pond/download.htm
>joel
>
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Subject: Re: pond software
From: MUDDTOO
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:11:53 EDT
In a message dated 8/20/99 6:36:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
jhays@caverns.com writes:
> At 05:44 PM 08/20/1999 , you wrote:
> >http://biosys.bre.orst.edu/pond/download.htm
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> I could not get this url to work, do you have it right.
> Thanks
> John
>
Hello John and everyone else,
The url is correct and appears to be located at a school, so perhaps if down
now for weekly maintenance. Save the url and try again later. You'll like
the program.
joel
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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