Aquaponics Digest - Fri 11/26/99




Message   1: O2 sensors

             from Bill 

Message   2: Re: Electrostatic Sprayers ?

             from "JAY MYERS" 

Message   3: Welcome message and list etiquette

             from S & S Aqua Farm 

Message   4: Rose Foundation

             from S & S Aqua Farm 

Message   5: Re: Moringa

             from "prody d" 

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Subject: O2 sensors

From:    Bill 

Date:    25 Nov 99 23:18:35 PST

In wastewater treatment in California, YSI is very popular.  Used units

can be had, but they were portable, required constant calibration, and

wre 600-1000$US new.

I've never tried Omega, but like their other items a lot, and their

catalogs show what's is state of the art in the industry, so the catalog

is valuable even if you don't use their product.

O2 sensors like you want were a very competitive new business a couple

years ago.  Price wars probably developed. Our new units(I forget the brand,

sorry) were offered with a month or two free trial.  They used a metal ended

(hidden)probe, which was "wiped" "clean" every minute or so, and replaced

about anually.  Outputs to controllers were available as this is the trend. 

"Service" is less an issue than it used to be as devices improved a lot, 

as long as warrentee is good, and parts can be had in reasonable time...

Glad to hear of your success!!!

Thomas Register may tell you of all brands available in US.  Your local

agriculture fellow was good advice.

Bill

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Subject: Re: Electrostatic Sprayers ?

From:    "JAY MYERS" 

Date:    Fri, 26 Nov 1999 06:42:47 -0700

Bert

Most of my g/h is stright drip hydroponics in the styro pots.  I also have

a 5000 gal fiberglass fish tank with 3 grow beds 4' X 16'.

I'm in Panama City Beach, Fl., which is in the panhandle of the state on

the northern coast of the Gulf of Mexico.

Jay

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> From: Bertmcl

> Are you doing Hydro or Aquaponics?

> 

> Whwew are you located?

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Subject: Welcome message and list etiquette

From:    S & S Aqua Farm 

Date:    Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:06:44 -0600

Thanks to Gordon for alerting us.  We have once again had a problem with

getting the welcome message posted to new subscribers.  I'm reposting for

those who just recently joined, and apologize to those who've already read

it.  Thought I'd also pass along the apology from our ISP - they're

generally very quick to respond when we have problems.  Paula

>Sigh. We moved over the mail server because it crashed and they neglected to

>move over list welcome messages. I apologize in the extreme. It's back on

>now.

>

>Regards,

>Matt

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Subject: Rose Foundation

From:    S & S Aqua Farm 

Date:    Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:27:37 -0600

Are there any list members who know anything about the Rose Foundation in

Portland, OR?   Please email me privately if you do.

Thanks

Paula

S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775  417-256-5124

Web page  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/

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Subject: Re: Moringa

From:    "prody d" 

Date:    Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:31:32 PST

can you please tell me more about moringa and where can I get such plant??

>From: William Evans 

>Reply-To: aquaponics@townsqr.com

>To: aquaponics@townsqr.com

>Subject: Moringa

>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 12:47:12 -0800

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>

> > Have you considered moringa?  All parts of it are edible

>

>THe leaves make a great side dish w/ Arroz con Pollo.

>  To propagate cut a year old branch off and stick into ground

>longer the better, makes a great living fence...or plant seeds

>Not a tree for structural uses ,as is Paulowinia.



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