Aquaponics Digest - Sun 12/05/99




Message   1: Big customer commitments

             from Jim Sealy Jr 

Message   2: Re: Big customer commitments

             from William Evans 

Message   3: Re: Big customer commitments

             from Dave Miller 

Message   4: Seed Supplier

             from Dave Miller 

Message   5: Re: Aloha

             from "Wendy Nagurny" 

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Subject: Big customer commitments

From:    Jim Sealy Jr 

Date:    Sun, 05 Dec 1999 20:53:26 -0600

I had the buyer for a major white tablecloth restaurant up by the

airport in Memphis contact me about fresh baby salad greens. Says he can

use 80 cases each weekend, but wants me to be able to compete with his

price he's getting on greens shipped next day air from Calif. now.

Question is what kind of commitment do you think I should push for from

his end if I gear up for a new customer on this scale, and at reduced

margins to boot.

Jim Sealy Jr.

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Subject: Re: Big customer commitments

From:    William Evans 

Date:    Sun, 05 Dec 1999 19:12:24 -0800

Jim Sealy Jr wrote:

> 

> I had the buyer for a major white tablecloth restaurant up by the

> airport in Memphis contact me about fresh baby salad greens. Says he can

> use 80 cases each weekend, but wants me to be able to compete with his

> price he's getting on greens shipped next day air 

 Why should your product be compared pricewise?, its prolly much

fresher, tho I would think that the farawawy grower should have enuf

price built into his product due to the long distance freight charges ,

to keep you competitive- tho I could be mistaken if it's a  large

operation w/ high efficiency

bill evans.

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Subject: Re: Big customer commitments

From:    Dave Miller 

Date:    Sun, 05 Dec 1999 22:35:09 -0500

Jim,

I would stress that you can offer him variety and color and a fresher

shelf life at his/her end. Discuss reusable cases or other returnable

boxes to minimize packaging. Discuss who will wash the greens (Will you

pre-rinse)? Offer to customize and diversify the mix by season or crop

as you feel fit. 

Sell the sizzle and worry less about the price - stress that you are

offering a wholesome product with a better fresher flavor. Are you

organic? Is the Calif supplier?

If you are going to take this business on, do you need to purchase

equipment? How prepared are you with start up needs. If you need to

shall out money, get a firm written contract for enough time to recoop

extra expenses.

Would it than be worth finding other smaller restaurants that would want

you to supply them. I mean that if you are going to jump in, why not

jump in heartily and take on more to offset the possible newer expenses

AND bring your margin up?

Just my thoughts.

Dave

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Subject: Seed Supplier

From:    Dave Miller 

Date:    Sun, 05 Dec 1999 23:01:20 -0500

Non-vegetarian, but sell organic foods. Expensive. 

Evergreen Y.H. Enterprises, P.O. Box 17538, Anaheim, CA 92817 

A great source for exotic seeds. Have a catalog. Some of the seeds

offered are:

          Amaranth, Asparagys Bean, Bitter Gourd, Bunching Onion,

Burdock, Catabash,

          Carrot, Celetuce, Chinese Cabbage, Chinese Celery, Chinese

Kale, Chinese Leek,

          Coriander, Garland Chrysanthemum, Green Bean, Hon-Tsai-Tai,

Kohlrabi,

          Komatsuma, Large Wax Gourd, Lettuce, Luffa, Mint, Mitsuba,

Oriental Basil,

          Oriental Cucumber, Oriental Eggplant, Oriental Mustard,

Oriental Radish, 

          Perilla, Small Wax Gourd, Snow Peas, Spinach, Turnip, Yo Choy,

etc. 

Anyone tried this company? Other suggestions?

Dave 

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Subject: Re: Aloha

From:    "Wendy Nagurny" 

Date:    Mon, 6 Dec 1999 00:03:24 -0500

I hear copper is

>lethal to them too, so installing barriers around your beds should take

>care of them unless they fly.

I am not an expert on slug/snail anatomy, but the copper deterrent thing was

explained to me like this:  When the slug's slime comes in contact with

copper, a chemical in the slim interacts with the copper and forms a low

voltage battery.  There are two sense organs of some kind on the slug's

underside; one near the head end and the other near the tail end.  When the

slime/copper battery is connected between these two sense organs, it annoys

the bejeebers out of the slug so it avoids the copper barrier.   The copper

barrier must be wide enough so that nearly the slugs whole body must be on

it for the copper barrier to work.  A slug will just crawl over a thin wire.

Copper foil nailed to a wide surface of a 1X2 is usually sufficient unless

you have some real big 'uns.

I have some slug problems in my hostas.  I have thought about covering some

1X2's with copper foil and tooling some pretty patterns in it for use as bed

edging.

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>Now, how do I keep baby frogs from sleeping on the underside of my basil

>leaves?  It looks like an Ann Geddes photograph but probably wouldn't be

>too good in the PR or Pesto departments...

MMmmmm.  Crunchy pesto (with real pests)  

Wendy

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>Adriana

>

>> a straight soil planted greenhouse. Any thoughts on good inexpensive

>> snail

>> deterrents would be welcome ... also any good recipes for escargot

>> these things are 2 inches long !!!!

>>

>> Kevin Reed

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