Aquaponics Digest - Thu 04/05/01
Message 1: digest format?
from "Mary Whitney"
Message 2: Re: digest format?
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 3: RE: Subtropic Fruits
from "Carlos R. Arano"
Message 4: Re: New Guy with problem
from fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Message 5: Getting spinach seed to germinate
from DAVEINBHAM 'at' aol.com
Message 6: What goes best with your aquaponic tomatoes and basil?
from "Adriana Gutierrez"
Message 7: Re: What goes best with your aquaponic tomatoes and basil?
from "Laura Dalton"
Message 8: Re: New Guy with problem
from fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Message 9: Re: Getting spinach seed to germinate
from JohnEBook 'at' aol.com
| Message 1
Subject: digest format?
From: "Mary Whitney"
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:31:43 -0700
I need to know how to get this in digest form!!!!
Mary Whitney
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| Message 2
Subject: Re: digest format?
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 05:22:05 -0500
At 11:31 PM 04/04/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>I need to know how to get this in digest form!!!!
>Mary Whitney
Mary - see below.
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| Message 3
Subject: RE: Subtropic Fruits
From: "Carlos R. Arano"
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:08:09 -0300
Adriana:
You are great. Thank you very much for your kind information.
I will be checking with some friends from Taiwan.
I will try to see what my friends at Cornell say about their page.
Thanks again and best regards,
Carlos
----- Original Message -----
From: Adriana Gutierrez
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: Subtropic Fruits
> Carlos,
> I don't know of a Spanish equivalent for Bok Choi or Bok Choy- it is a
> type of greens in the cabbage or chard family I believe. It is also
> known as Pak Choi. It isn't what is known in the US as Chinese
> Cabbage or Napa Cabbage which has a tighter larger head and light
> green leaves. It is used in stir-fry cooking and can be used at the
> baby stage 4" or full-sized 12" +.
> http://chinesefood.about.com/food/chinesefood/library/blglossaryaltter
> ms.htm?iam=dpile&terms=%2Bbok+%2Bchoi has descriptions of a number of
> Chinese ingredients, here is what they say:
> "Bok Choy - A type of cabbage, the most common variety of which is the
> distinctive vegetable with the white stem and dark green leaves
> readily available in most supermarkets. There is also Shanghai or
> baby bok choy, a smaller version of the same vegetable. Besides being
> used in soups and stir-fries, you'll also find it in braised dishes.
> Keep in the vegetable crisper section of the refrigerator. Rinse
> thoroughly before using."
>
> For a drawing of a baby variety go to
> http://www.pacificrim-gourmet.com/mei_qing_choi.htm
> For a full size bok choy go to
> http://bok.isamillionaire.com/?page=about
>
> Your best bet on nomenclature may be to show a picture to some of your
> Argentine Chinese people to see if they recognize it. The Cornell
> site for Pak Choi Production is at
> http://www.cals.cornell.edu/dept/flori/pakchoi/index.html I couldn't
> get the site to open beyond the cover page.
>
> Adriana
| Message 4
Subject: Re: New Guy with problem
From: fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:40:15 -0500 (CDT)
Red from your brief description you probably have a bacterial fin rot
and a fungus on your fish which would be caused most likely by water
quality stress. From over stocking and crowding in a newly set up
system before the bacterial bed is established .The fish are essentially
swimming in a bucket of rancid piss which is a bad thing unless your
trying to start a plague !! or maybe kimshee .Any how until the bacteria
bed has been established which can take a month you must do regular
partial water changes to keep the fish swimming right side up .AT ALL
TIMES WHEN YOU NOTE A PROBLEM WITH THE FISH DO A WATER CHANGE FIRST
THING . THIS IS YOUR FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT RULE IT WILL SAVE YOU
THOUSANDS OF HEADACHES AND DOLLARS TOO not to mention preventing the
fish from runting
Second rule is keep a hospital tank on hand and take out any fish
that are obviously sick and treat them in it. Id start with rock salt a
teaspoon to the gal. with most fresh water fish for a week
Or with salt water fish use plain fresh water and dip them for a
while.
You see the idea is to kill off the parasites by shocking them with
conditions that they are not adapted to.
I hope this helps. I've got to go the suns out and and i am late for
bed with another long work night ahead
Bruce
| Message 5
Subject: Getting spinach seed to germinate
From: DAVEINBHAM 'at' aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:29:46 EDT
In a message dated 4/5/01 12:08:11 AM Central Daylight Time,
aquaponics-digest-request 'at' townsqr.com writes:
<< Dave,
Did you find that the spinach seed needed to be covered to germinate?
Based on Ted's comments I suspect that is why I had poor results with
my trial in which I simply broadcast the seed on the surface of my
perlite beds. I found that Bull's Blood Beets required coverage to do
well; maybe I'll give spinach another try.
I agree with you that Evergreen has an interesting, but expensive seed
collection.
Adriana
>>
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Adriana,
Spinach, unlike lettuce, does not need light to germinate. It does, however,
benefit from prechilling. That is not a problem here because I store my seeds
in the refrigerator. That is why many seeds are viable for up to 20 years.
In answer to your question, yes, I covered the seed to get them to germinate.
I had about 80% germination which is pretty good for spinach.
Yes, Evergreen seeds are expensive, but they have many things I cannot find
elsewhere.
Hope this helps.
Kindest regards,
Dave
| Message 6
Subject: What goes best with your aquaponic tomatoes and basil?
From: "Adriana Gutierrez"
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:57:10 -0500
Slightly off topic, but definitely most of the kindred spirits on this
list will appreciate....
A lot of you guys are growing fabulous aquaponic or hydroponic basil
and some of you are also producing tomatoes. What better way to enjoy
their superb qualities than in a Caprese Salad with some fresh
homemade mozarella? I came across some rave reviews on the Cooking
Light Bulletin Boards for www.cheesemaking.com which sells
cheesemaking kits including their Thirty Minute Mozarella and Ricotta
Kit. I got mine today and will let you know how it turns out.
Adriana
| Message 7
Subject: Re: What goes best with your aquaponic tomatoes and basil?
From: "Laura Dalton"
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:17:38 -0500
Adriana:
I've been using New England Cheesemaking (www.cheesemaking.com) for a couple
of years and all their products are great. I've made crème fraiche, fromage
blanc, sour cream and I bought their frozen Mozzarella curd - great fun
stretching it out!!
Good luck with your kits,
Laura
Laura E. Dalton
Victoria Gardens Bed & Breakfast
1461 State Route BB
West Plains, MO 65775
(417) 256-3268
laura 'at' victoria-gardens.com
www.victoria-gardens.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Adriana Gutierrez
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 02:57 PM
Subject: What goes best with your aquaponic tomatoes and basil?
> Slightly off topic, but definitely most of the kindred spirits on this
> list will appreciate....
>
> A lot of you guys are growing fabulous aquaponic or hydroponic basil
> and some of you are also producing tomatoes. What better way to enjoy
> their superb qualities than in a Caprese Salad with some fresh
> homemade mozarella? I came across some rave reviews on the Cooking
> Light Bulletin Boards for www.cheesemaking.com which sells
> cheesemaking kits including their Thirty Minute Mozarella and Ricotta
> Kit. I got mine today and will let you know how it turns out.
>
> Adriana
>
| Message 8
Subject: Re: New Guy with problem
From: fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:47:58 -0500 (CDT)
Both Steves You need to install a clarifier in line between the fish
tanks and the grow beds to keep the solid fish waste and unused food
from plugging up your beds or that problem will recur regularly .
When you change some water you take your waste water out of the bottom
of the clarifier effectively removing the potential bad things from
happening.
Its just a smart thing to do.
A clarifier is just a container like a 55gal.drum with 2 holes in it one
in the bottom for clean out and one in the side near the top for the
filtered water both holes of coarse are fitted with bulk head fittings
the bottom of coarse also has a shut off or your fish tank will soon go
dry.
Now over the top end of this clarifier and coming from the fish tank
is a L shaped PVC pipe that makes a 90 degree down into the clarifier
that exhausts at about the half way point and below a thick layer or
blanket of netting and you have a working clarifier
Bruce
| Message 9
Subject: Re: Getting spinach seed to germinate
From: JohnEBook 'at' aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:20:57 EDT
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I found no references to light effecting the germination of spinach. I did
find a few that stated that germination goes down as the temperature goes up.
This can be counteracted by freezing the seed for a few days and then
moistening and refrigerating for a few more days before planting. Virtually
all references recommended that new seed be purchased each year.
John
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I found no references to light effecting the
germination of spinach. I did
find a few that stated that germination goes down as the temperature goes up.
This can be counteracted by freezing the seed for a few days and then
moistening and refrigerating for a few more days before planting. Virtually
all references recommended that new seed be purchased each year.
John
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