Aquaponics Digest - Tue 05/01/01



Message   1: Stirling
             from Roy Houston 

Message   2: Re: Stirling Engines idea
             from "Michael Kline" 

Message   3: [Fwd: [tilapia] Fwd: virus]
             from wylie bass 

Message   4: Fw: Possible Virus
             from "Laura Dalton" 

Message   5: Re: Unlinking Systems - Biodigestor construction
             from Raul Vergueiro Martins 

Message   6: Re: [Fwd: [tilapia] Fwd: virus]
             from marc 'at' aculink.net

Message   7: Re: Greenhouses
             from "Judith M. Bailey" 

Message   8: Stirling engine for cooling
             from "Frank Stancato" 

| Message 1  

Subject: Stirling
From:    Roy Houston 
Date:    Tue, 01 May 2001 09:38:27 -0500

Jerry:

I don't think the stirling concept would be suitable for cooling in terms of
greenhouse cooling.  It tends to be better for generating large
reductions/increases in temperature, albeit in lower volumes of energy (if
that makes sense).  In other words, works great for refrigeration of a small
box, such as a cooler/refrigerator, but would not be suitable for a home
cooling system.

It's been a while since I looked at the Stirling cycle (college was ~20
years ago), but that is my recollection.
Roy

| Message 2  

Subject: Re: Stirling Engines idea
From:    "Michael Kline" 
Date:    Tue, 01 May 2001 09:46:05 -0500

Please keep me informed. I have the same two uses in mind.

>>> marc 'at' aculink.net 4/30/01 09:31:21 PM >>>
Looks like an interesting project. It would be able to
provide mechanical energy and last for an appreciable time
if well built out of proper materials.

As yourself I am also studying the engine and considering
applications such as battery charging and water pumping, et
al.

If we do it we'll post pictures on our web site and share
data.

Marc

Frank Stancato wrote:
>=20
> TGTX, thanks for all of the links.

.=20
> Anyone interested in further conversaions just send me an email on or =
off
> the list. If anyone tries it and it works let me know.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Frank

| Message 3  

Subject: [Fwd: [tilapia] Fwd: virus]
From:    wylie bass 
Date:    Tue, 01 May 2001 13:55:40 -0500

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> Subject: virus
> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 00:11:49 
> 
> Subject: New Viruses
> A new virus has just been discovered that has been
> classified by
> Microsoft
> (  http://www.microsoft.com/) and by McAfee
> (http://www.mcafee.com/) as
> the
> most destructive ever! This virus was discovered
> yesterday afternoon
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> and no vaccine has yet been developed. This virus
> simply destroys Sector
> Zero
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> functioning are
> stored.
> This virus acts in the following manner: It sends
> itself automatically
> to all  contacts on your list with the title "A
> Virtual Card for You".
> As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened, the
> computer freezes so
> that the user has to  reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del
> keys or the reset
> button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector Zero,
> thus permanently
> destroying the hard disk.
> Yesterday in just a few hours this virus caused
> panic in New York,
> according to news broadcast by CNN
> (http://www.cnn.com/ ). This alert
> was received by an employee of Microsoft itself. So
> don't open any mails
> with subject "A Virtual  Card for You". As soon as
> you get the mail,
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> not at all.
> 
> Also: Intel announced  that a new and very
> destructive virus was
> discovered recently. If you receive an email called
> "An Internet Flower
> For You", do not open it. Delete it right away! This
> virus removes all
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Subject: Fw: Possible Virus
From:    "Laura Dalton" 
Date:    Tue, 1 May 2001 14:05:23 -0500

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downtown 'at' wpchamber.com

=20
All,

There is an e-mail going around that warns of two virus attacks.

"A Virtual Card for You" & "An Internet Flower for You"

I have researched this e-mail on the McAfee Web Site and all evidence =
points to the whole thing as a hoax.

If you are interested look at the following URL on the McAfee web site.

http://vil.mcafee.com/hoax.asp?

Best advice is=20
Never open an email attachment unless you know what it is--even if it's =
from someone you know and trust.

I'll keep you posted

Please send this message on to others.=20

John T. Dalton
Director
Downtown West Plains, Inc.
401 Jefferson
West Plains, MO 65775
(417) 256-4433
downtown 'at' wpchamber.com

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downtown 'at' wpchamber.com

 
All,
 
There is an e-mail going around that warns of two virus = attacks.
 
"A Virtual Card for You" & "An Internet Flower for You"
 
I have researched this e-mail on the McAfee Web Site and all = evidence=20 points to the whole thing as a hoax.
 
If you are interested look at the following URL on the McAfee web=20 site.
 
http://vil.mcafee.com/hoax.asp?
 
Best advice is=20

Never open an email attachment unless you know what it is--even if = it's=20 from someone you know and trust.

I'll keep you posted

Please send this message on to others. 

John T.=20 Dalton
Director
Downtown West Plains, Inc.
401 = Jefferson
West=20 Plains, MO 65775
(417) 256-4433
downtown 'at' wpchamber.com
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Bobeda" wrote: > Hello Raul, > > Thanks for your reply. I'm glad we agree in our views about using biodigesters with aquaponic > systems. > > To keep from reinventing the wheel, I would like to see your drawings of the small biodigester > using 200 liter plastic drums. As you indicated, I will contact Mr. Melvin Landers to that > effect. I'm just finisshing the drawings and I still need to re-write the user's manual, so, Melvin has not them untill now. I told you to contact him, for you to know what is our program we have to distribute those plans. > I would very much like to know why you say that a venturi wouldn't work very well since we > have about 180 venturis operating in our tanks and they haven't given us any problems until > now. The venturi works very well wneh you must oxigenate practically plain water, but to oxigenate an animal waste slurry it cloggs very easily. It is better and cheaper to use a kind of shower with large holes (about 6 mm diameter). > As for the gentleman that has been using fish wastes and weeds in a flood and drain hydroponic > system for several years, I just found the article, it is called "Back yard recipe for organic > hydroponics" and appeared in the July/August 2000 PH&G magazine and the gentleman's name is > Stan Marshall who has been doing this for over 10 years. It is a very interesting article > because it shows that a gravel bed system is very forgiving even when used with incompletely > digested organic wastes. I have not that issue of PH&G. if you have it, can you send me a copy of the article? > As for my system design, I hope that with your help I won't have too many problems. If I can be of any help for you, please do contact me. BTW, by your e-mail adress, it seems you are in Paraguay. So, why don't you write me in Spanish and I write you in Portuguese? It would be easier for we both. We should write in English only to the mail lists. Best regards Raul Vergueiro Martins rvm 'at' sti.com.br | Message 6 Subject: Re: [Fwd: [tilapia] Fwd: virus] From: marc 'at' aculink.net Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 17:30:23 -0600 It's a virus hoax. Not real. Phony virus. You've been suckered! Based on your "To" line it probably went to around 500 people. It's been around 5 or 6 hours so it's been resent more times. Probably reached around a million mailboxes by now. Suspect enough power's been used to light a small city. Might try to research these hoaxes before passing them on. Marc wylie bass wrote: > > > .snip.> > A new virus has just been discovered that has been > > classified by > > Microsoft > > ( http://www.microsoft.com/) and by McAfee .snip. | Message 7 Subject: Re: Greenhouses From: "Judith M. Bailey" Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 20:28:33 -0500 Adriana this is Judy Bailey as you may remember I am a poultry grower I was wondering if we could form a mutually benificial relationship by us having the biodigester and us supplying the organic nutrients to the growers? Adriana Gutierrez wrote: > Thanks Bill, > I recalled that Carlos has a web site so he will post the graphics on > it along with the translations with the text and a link sent to the > group. If we run into any technical difficulties with this plan I > will certainly let you know. > > Adriana > > > Carlos Arano wrote: > > > > > > Adriana: > > > I'm sending to you, out to the list, .zip heavy copies of the > three > > > pages of my actual book (in progress). I feel you will be able to > post them > > > in English but I don't know how you will do to post the drawings I > made for > > > my book. > > > > Adriana, > > > > If you like you can send the completed translations and drawings to > me > > and I'll make a quick web page out of them when I get a chance and > put > > them out on my web space. Or better yet, if someone (Devon???) > would > > volunteer to do the html for me, I can host the pages no problem (I > vast > > web space available to me for essentially free). I'm just a little > > short on time right now. This all of course depends on Carlos > ok-ing > > the publication of his material on the web. > > > > Let me know, > > Bill > > > > As you can see, they are fundamentals to understand the concept. > > > I hope you will find the way to do it. | Message 8 Subject: Stirling engine for cooling From: "Frank Stancato" Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:55:58 -0700 Jerry: why not try using the Sterling engine to: maintain a simple water chiller for your tanks/ponds (What are you using?), power a evaporative cooler, run a fan to maintain air circulation out of the greenhouse or across the top of your tanks to maintain a cooler temperature (you will need to replace the water loss, is that a problem in your area?) use the cooler to pump water through a ground based cooler. Frank

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