Aquaponics Digest - Fri 05/04/01
Message 1: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Mon 04/30/01
from marc 'at' aculink.net
Message 2: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 05/03/01
from DAVEINBHAM 'at' aol.com
Message 3: RE:Gicleur- Biodigesters cooperative relationships
from "billevans"
Message 4: Re: Chicken manure
from Gordon Watkins
Message 5: Re: Chicken manure
from "Adriana Gutierrez"
Message 6: RE: arsenic sources in soil and water
.Chicken manure
from "billevans"
Message 7: Re: Gicleur- Biodigesters cooperative relationships
from Raul Vergueiro Martins
Message 8: [Fwd: freshwater prawns]
from Crighton
Message 9: Re: [Fwd: freshwater prawns]
from Ronald Polka
Message 10: RE: Aquaponics Digest - Mon 04/30/01
from "WALTER SHARRER"
Message 11: Sterling Engine for cooling
from "Frank Stancato"
Message 12: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 05/03/01
from "TGTX"
Message 13: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 05/03/01
from marc 'at' aculink.net
Message 14: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 05/03/01
from "TGTX"
Message 15: Re: Organic Standards
from Peggy & Emmett
Message 16: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 05/03/01
from kris book
Message 17: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 05/03/01
from "TGTX"
Message 18: Re: Sterling Engine for cooling
from "TGTX"
Message 19: Vacation
from DAVEINBHAM 'at' aol.com
| Message 1
Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Mon 04/30/01
From: marc 'at' aculink.net
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 23:27:03 -0600
I consider Aunt Bonnie to be a bad example but you seem to
have followed in her footsteps.
She chose a lazy way to lose weight with a "too good to be
true" "quick fix" method that any competent doctor or
pharmacist would have given her decent advise on. She was
not a victim but a self medicating person making an arrogant
and unqualified medical decision. How can I possibly feel
compassion or concern for this nonsense?
Your swallowing "the pill" of protectionism and mean
spirited hostility toward busnessmen is also something to
behold.
Hate and fear are not agricultural values in my way of
thinking.
Sincerely,
Marc
TGTX wrote:
>
> > just keep Auntie Bonnie's story in mind when you start to bitch. I,
> > personally, will take government regulations over unfettered Capitolism
> and
> > day.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
>
| Message 2
Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 05/03/01
From: DAVEINBHAM 'at' aol.com
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:49:52 EDT
Ted,
Have you been smoking them damn crawdads again ? We, your friends, told you
that stuff would rot your brain.
Kindest regards,
Dave
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In a message dated 5/4/01 12:08:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
aquaponics-digest-request 'at' townsqr.com writes:
<< .my preferences for organic foods don't involve a child like trust
that I place in the wisdom of the government to "protect" me.
And while we are on the subject, we should abolish the IRS and set up an ad
valorem tax in its stead, and cut federal spending by 20%
at least.
Another Lone Star Opinion From Out Here on the Prairie.
Ted
Just Sittin' round the campfire with my whittling knife,
Both the sittin, the campfire, and my knife are now being made illegal by
some overly fastidious curmugeon somewhere.
>>
| Message 3
Subject: RE:Gicleur- Biodigesters cooperative relationships
From: "billevans"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:43:30 -0700
"If you have a gasoline powered engine, it will do very well with biogas.
You must change the "gicleur" of the carburator, "
------------
Possibly the english equivalent would be "jetting"- altering the air/fuel
mixture put out by the carb
.by changing either the needlevalve setting on
the carburetor "slide" or if no slide ( functions as a throttle) then
possibly altering the internal bore size of the "jets" elsewhere in the
carb.
| Message 4
Subject: Re: Chicken manure
From: Gordon Watkins
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 12:26:26 -0500
Adriana,
One of the major difficulties in using by-products of agribusiness
lies in the secrecy of their proprietary production systems. They are
loath to divulge their inputs which then become their outputs (garbage in,
garbage out) and the big poultry producers are especially protective of
their feed formulations. My understanding is that most of the heavy metal
contaminants of poultry litter derive from deliberate feed additives,.
Copper is used as a parasiticide, arsenic as an appetite stimulant, and
I'm not sure about cadmium. I discovered this by accident 20 years ago
when reading a study by the U. of Arkansas (Tyson Country) entitled,
"Materials Toxic To Cattle" which showed laboratory analysis of many
materials, including poultry litter, which are fed to cattle, sheep, etc.
My own subsequent analysis confirmed this study. But these are probably
only three of many other contaminants of concern which cannot be found
without extensive and expensive testing. So, when using agribussiness
by-products, caveat emptor.
Gordon Watkins
Adriana Gutierrez wrote:
> Thanks for the warning Gordon,
> Why does poultry litter have such a high metal content to begin with?
> Does it have a therapeutic function in poultry rearing? This makes
> it doubly important to monitor your sources of inputs.
>
> > Be aware that commercial poultry litter will likely have high levels
> of
> > some heavy metals such as copper (as high as 500 ppm+), cadmium and
> > perhaps arsenic. I'm not sure what the effects of biodigestion would
> > have on these materials, but studies have shown that the composting
> > process can actually make them more available for plant uptake.
> Heavy
> > metals are cumulative toxins which, with repeated use, can become
> > problematic. I would be particularly wary of their use in
> recirculating
> > systems and, at the very least, monitor levels regularly.
| Message 5
Subject: Re: Chicken manure
From: "Adriana Gutierrez"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:35:51 -0500
Thanks Gordon for your explanation - I assume, because of the
antibiotic issue that biodigester technology is more appropriate to
smaller, more "earth-friendly" operations who give their birds organic
feed. A second issue realted to poultry, however is that, as Raul
says, they must be in a caged operation to avoid the contamination of
the manure with extraneous sand, dirt and other grit, which affects
the decomposition of the manure in the biodigester and results in a
less than pure biofertilizer plus unwated sludge. Unfortunately, I
believe that confinement is one of those no-nos for organic production
(sorry, haven't had a chance to read the regs in detail). So if
certification of the eggs is essential then this would not be agood
application. If you are more intersted in organic plants and are
willing to trade off confinement of animals for a good source of
nutrients then it will work.
> One of the major difficulties in using by-products of
agribusiness
> lies in the secrecy of their proprietary production systems. They
are
> loath to divulge their inputs which then become their outputs
(garbage in,
> garbage out) and the big poultry producers are especially protective
of
> their feed formulations. My understanding is that most of the heavy
metal
> contaminants of poultry litter derive from deliberate feed
additives,.
> Copper is used as a parasiticide, arsenic as an appetite stimulant,
and
> I'm not sure about cadmium. I discovered this by accident 20 years
ago
> when reading a study by the U. of Arkansas (Tyson Country) entitled,
> "Materials Toxic To Cattle" which showed laboratory analysis of many
> materials, including poultry litter, which are fed to cattle, sheep,
etc.
> My own subsequent analysis confirmed this study. But these are
probably
> only three of many other contaminants of concern which cannot be
found
> without extensive and expensive testing. So, when using
agribussiness
> by-products, caveat emptor.
| Message 6
Subject: RE: arsenic sources in soil and water
.Chicken manure
From: "billevans"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:00:50 -0700
arsenic occurs naturally in some soils ( and associated well/spring
water),
one of the minerals I know of that contains it is related to
pyrite-"fool's gold".
Not ever having raised chickens, if one were to set up a pen for them on
soil
w/ fools gold in it.
Arsenopyrite
Chemistry FeAsS, Iron Arsenic Sulfide
Color Silverish, whiteish-grey, metallic
Hardness 5.5-6
Specific Gravity 6.07
Crystal System monoclinic
Environment in sulfide ore deposits, common in medium to high temperature
hydrothermal veins. Frequently in metamorphic deposits
http://www.geosociety.org/cgi-bin/hilight.pl?ayotte^/var/www/docs/pubs/abstr
acts/1998/50336.htm
A comparison of arsenic data from these bedrock wells indicates that the
frequency of detections of arsenic, at 0.005 mg/L, in the bedrock aquifer is
significantly different among major bedrock lithology groups. Bedrock units
from state geologic maps were reclassified into five general groups: (1)
calcareous metasedimentary rocks, (2) non-calcareous metasedimentary rocks,
and (3) felsic igneous rocks, with smaller areas of (4) mafic igneous rocks,
and (5) clastic sedimentary rocks. The frequency of detection of arsenic in
bedrock aquifer water was 49 percent in the calcareous metasedimentary rocks
and less than 25 percent in the other four general groups. Arsenic
concentrations from wells completed in rocks of the general groups were
ranked, and significance tests were performed on the means of the ranks
within each group, followed by pair-wise multiple comparison tests. Results
show that arsenic concentrations are significantly higher in calcareous
metasedimentary rocks than in lithochemical units containing largely igneous
rocks, non-calcareous metasedimentary rocks, and clastic sedimentary rocks.
Data for the study were primarily compliance monitoring analyses obtained
from the Maine Department of Human Services, New Hampshire Department of
Environmental Services, the Massachusetts Department of Environmental
Protection, and the Rhode Island Department of Health.
| Message 7
Subject: Re: Gicleur- Biodigesters cooperative relationships
From: Raul Vergueiro Martins
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:49:51 +0100
Hello Billevans:
You understood well what I tryied do say explain.
Regards
Raul Vergueiro Martins
rvm 'at' sticom.br
billevans wrote:
> "If you have a gasoline powered engine, it will do very well with biogas.
> You must change the "gicleur" of the carburator, "
>
>
------------
> Possibly the english equivalent would be "jetting"- altering the air/fuel
> mixture put out by the carb
.by changing either the needlevalve setting on
> the carburetor "slide" or if no slide ( functions as a throttle) then
> possibly altering the internal bore size of the "jets" elsewhere in the
> carb.
| Message 8
Subject: [Fwd: freshwater prawns]
From: Crighton
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 11:58:03 -0700
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Hi,
I have been lurking for a month or so and have been wondering if any one
has any experience raising fresh water prawns in tanks? Are the hardy,
finicky? How did you increase the bottom surface of your tank?
If possible, could someone direct me to a list for this topic if one
exists?
Thank you in advance for any information. It is greatly appreciated.
Also, I would really like to say that I enjoy this list and I find the
people very friendly and very knowledgeable.
Thanks again.
Lyla
P.S.: Has any one seen a minto's wheel work or is it just a piece of
creative imagination? - Just curious.
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| Message 9
Subject: Re: [Fwd: freshwater prawns]
From: Ronald Polka
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 15:36:09 -0600
At 11:58 AM 5/4/2001 -0700, you wrote:
SNIP
> Hi,
>I have been lurking for a month or so and have been wondering if any one
>has any experience raising fresh water prawns in tanks? Are the hardy,
>finicky? How did you increase the bottom surface of your tank?
>
>If possible, could someone direct me to a list for this topic if one
>exists?
>
>Thank you in advance for any information. It is greatly appreciated.
>Also, I would really like to say that I enjoy this list and I find the
>people very friendly and very knowledgeable.
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Lyla
>
>P.S.: Has any one seen a minto's wheel work or is it just a piece of
>creative imagination? - Just curious.
Lyla
Just by sheer coincidence in my mail today I received word of new
aquaculture publications. If you are interested in a basic reference this
may bear looking into. Freshwater Prawn Culture edited by Michael Bernard
and Wagner Cotroni Valenti, published 2000, ISBN 0-632-05602-9. This can be
purchased from Iowa State University Press for $144.95. You can contact
them at 800-862-6657, contact Patti Woo. Web site at http://www.isupress.com/
Best of luck.
Ron Polka
Southwest Technology Development Institute
New Mexico State University
Box 30001, Dept 3SOL
Las Cruces, NM 88003
rpolka 'at' nmsu.edu
| Message 10
Subject: RE: Aquaponics Digest - Mon 04/30/01
From: "WALTER SHARRER"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:14:47 -0500
RIGHT ON THE MONEY TED!!
could not have said it better myself ;-)
walter
in Austin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aquaponics-request 'at' townsqr.com
> [mailto:aquaponics-request 'at' townsqr.com]On Behalf Of TGTX
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 6:29 AM
> To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
> Cc: jack.ralph 'at' tpwd.state.tx.us; Jeff Sargent
> Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Mon 04/30/01
>
>
> > just keep Auntie Bonnie's story in mind when you start to bitch. I,
> > personally, will take government regulations over unfettered Capitolism
> and
> > day.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
>
> Hey Dave, don't get me wrong. I read Upton Sinclair's "the Jungle", too,
> you know. It was required reading in my high school English program, as
> part of the gradual socialist conditioning in our public educational
> system. But, with further reading and research we know that Sinclair was a
> dyed in the wool socialist and would have linked arms with
> Stalin, that joy
> boy for planet earth, any day, given the chance. (They didn't bother to
> reveal that part in the high school English class. Isn't that
> interesting?)
>
> Five year plans and New Deals wrapped in golden chains.
>
> The sales pitch is that capitalism needs to be fettered to protect the
> little guy, because the little guy has absolutely no power of choice, no
> intelligence, nor power of self discipline nor self protection nor self
> movitation, nor self education, nor self determination
.But once the
> goods are delivered, the "demonized" multinational corporations
> (as well as
> the mom and pop operations) are thus fettered, much more than
> necessary (the
> socialists and communist are never so "demonized" thanks to sympathetic
> academia and press media
while in the mean time millions die in the
> Gulags
.and billions are under surveillance by totalitarian
> regimes)
.and then the little guy is presented with the government tab
> for all those wonderful services rendered
and the end result
> is that the
> little guy ends up being a little more "fettered" by the paternalistic
> bureaucracy in an evolutionary process of the erosion of
> individual freedom
> in deference to the State, as if we were a hive with a hive
> "mind", or as if
> the Rhodes Scholar philosopher kings with degrees in Public Administration
> from John F Kennedy School of Public Affairs, who never ran a business or
> made a payroll, were genetically or culturally superior and thus more
> qualified in statecraft and the running of society
HA!!.
>
> Look, I have worked within both the private sector and within
> city and state
> governments. Rules and regulations are necessary evils. You gotta have
> them. But, give me free trade associations and rational consumer
> unions and
> private sector consortiums for setting organic standards and for self
> policing any day, to the degree that it is feasible and possible,
> over such
> hallowed government institutions as public schools and the
> multiple tiers of
> increasingly intrusive, stupid, overly fastidious, non-productive
> government
> programs. Those are MY choices, not what I would forcibly impose on those
> who really love the weight and feel and "security" of their golden chains,
> courtesy of the government, on their limbs
My problem is that, as an
> individual in this ever increasing, swarming hive, this madding
> crowd, which
> use to be a frontier and a republic, I have fewer and fewer options and
> choices to operate within a free society and a free market of empowered,
> self determined, sovereign,educated, intelligent, free
> individuals
.there are no more countries or frontiers to migrate to,
> until we get some cheap, private space transportation and
> colonize the final
> frontier and get the hell away from the degenerating, depraved hive.
>
> But as for organic standards, now it is too late
. and now we have the
> national Organic Food Production Act and the USDA standards to go with
> them
it took them at least, what, 6 or 8 years after the Act
> to establish
> those
.do I think that OFPA is tantamount to
> totalitarianism??
.No, not
> at all
.but 8 years?? and look at all those rules
to "improve" on
> the best food supply in the world??? And we are paying a swarm of
> bureacrats that live in Washington's Beltway the big bucks to
> administer it
> all
That's just crazy, man. The states could have done it just
> fine
or better, a national trade association
it is done
> with all kinds
> of other industries and trades, why not organic farming and food
> production?
> Am I against having standards and rules? No. Do I prefer organic
> food over
> "conventional" food? Sure
but I have my reasons for that, involving soil
> conservation and resource efficiency and local self government and home
> rule
.my preferences for organic foods don't involve a child like trust
> that I place in the wisdom of the government to "protect" me.
>
> And while we are on the subject, we should abolish the IRS and
> set up an ad
> valorem tax in its stead, and cut federal spending by 20%
at least.
>
> Another Lone Star Opinion From Out Here on the Prairie.
>
> Ted
> Just Sittin' round the campfire with my whittling knife,
> Both the sittin, the campfire, and my knife are now being made illegal by
> some overly fastidious curmugeon somewhere.
>
| Message 11
Subject: Sterling Engine for cooling
From: "Frank Stancato"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:36:13 -0700
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sure I
was sending the right one and it was down yesterday. Checkout
www.thekrib.com (tropical fish site put out by Cal Tech) for some simple
homemade ideas, again they are for tropical fish, but they are a =
starting
place for some different ideas.
The simple cooler I have seen used is an under the counter (dorm)
refrigerator. From the info supplied, by coiling some tubing in the
refrigerator you can cool 400 gallons. Since the Sterling Engine can be =
used for powering a cold box, could it be used as a chiller?
If your tanks are above ground you can try wrapping them with some heavy
cloths and keep them moist (use this to keep my water jugs used for =
drinking
water cool when I'm in the field).
The ground cooler I was thinking about would be tying the Sterling =
Engine
(or a regular pump) to a system of pipes (you could add a large buried =
tank)
buried in the ground. Since the temperature below ground stays around =
55F
and you will have a lot of mass you should be able to cool your tanks. =
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would
have to bury (Any engineers out there who could help supply the =
equations?).
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http://www.heatpipe.com/ . I don't know if you could make the 'pipes'
(anyone out there know how to make them I would like to know) but they =
have
a cooling system and a hot water system that could be used to lower the
temperature in a greenhouse.
Hope this helps, if not let me know and maybe I or someone else an come =
up
with something else.
Frank
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| Message 12
Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 05/03/01
From: "TGTX"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:08:52 -0500
> Ted,
> Have you been smoking them damn crawdads again ? We, your friends, told
you
> that stuff would rot your brain.
> Kindest regards,
> Dave
Well, Dave, I suppose that is your "kind" way of exiting a really blatant OT
discussion
so be it, but , if I follow the content of your message
correctly it translates to just this: "when Ted disagrees with Dave, Ted is
not only dead wrong, but seriously deficient in the old grey matter
department
.suddenly there is Tapioca pudding between his earlobes".
Well, I will admit that I know of few folks that would attempt to weave John
Fogerty lyrics, Big Brother Joe Stalin, Organic Agriculture, Space
Colonization, and the IRS into one rambling, pendantic message, but, I can
assure you of one thing, Mr.Dave
that the Tapioca pudding didn't
appear suddenly! ;-)
I bid you peace. My peace I give you. ;-)
I don't know where you reside, Dave, but as for me, (and a few million other
Texans, I would wager
.) I'm about ready to secede.
But, let's lighten this up a bit
so, now
enters another stupid
joke
. stage left
Seems three guys were walkin on the beach in uh, California
yeah that's
it.
One's from Nebraska, one's from Texas, and one's from Oklahoma.
They come across a magic lamp in the sand, pick it up and rub it.
Of course the genie pops out and grants each one a single wish.
Guy from Nebraska says "give me unlimited amounts of perfect soil with
perfect fertility, in the great state of Nebraska for all eternity, so that
it is the most productive agricultural state anywhere in the world" POOF!
It happens.
Guy from Texas says, "you know, I don't need no improvements on Texas, but I
am tired of all these Yankees and Okies and just everybody in the world
moving into the great state of Texas
you can't even drive from one side
of Austin to the other without a full tank of gas so we can drive 3 miles an
hour on the highway for 2 hours
I just want to preserve my little
piece of heaven on earth, so just put an impenetrable, 200 foot thick wall
around the state of Texas that is 200 foot high" POOF! It happens.
Guy from Oklahoma says "Mr. Genie, sir, is that wall really impenetrable?
And does it totally enclose the great state of Texas?"
"But of course, says the Genie, I do nothing but fully warranted,
professional work"
"Well, then", says the Okie, "you, know, I always thought Lake Texoma was
too small
and it should have been named Lake Okla-tex".
"So
. fill it with water"
POOF!!
.or should I say SPLASH!
Another Postcard from the Lone Star Edge of Reality:.
Water Skiing in Lake Okla-tex,
Somewhere above my Antedeluvian Hometown
The Weather is Here, Wish you were Fine.
Tally Ho!
Tedzo
| Message 13
Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 05/03/01
From: marc 'at' aculink.net
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 17:30:25 -0600
Let me know when and we'll come on down if there's any room
left.
.>
> I don't know where you reside, Dave, but as for me, (and a few million other
> Texans, I would wager
.) I'm about ready to secede.
.
| Message 14
Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 05/03/01
From: "TGTX"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:23:07 -0500
> Let me know when and we'll come on down if there's any room
> left.
> .> >
> > I don't know where you reside, Dave, but as for me, (and a few million
other
> > Texans, I would wager
.) I'm about ready to secede.
Marc and Marcy
for you folks, I'll fire up the grill, & y'all just come
on in this house!
We'll have some ice tea on the back porch and sit a spell and discuss
aquaponics, string theories, and ceiling wax, and finish our BBQ plate
before the Okies and the Genies flood the lakebed.
Ted
| Message 15
Subject: Re: Organic Standards
From: Peggy & Emmett
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 20:59:18 -0400
At 11:11 PM 4/30/2001 -0500, Jay Myers wrote:
>Emmett -
>
>I'm not sure I read the standards in the same way.
>
Hi Jay,
I can't find any of my NOSB paperwork. It apparently got thrown away (it
wasn't me, I'm a packrat. My wife said she didn't do it. So we're blaming
our mindless bi-weekly housekeeper). Luckily I know another packrat so
next week I'll get back to you on my interpretation.
.Em
| Message 16
Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 05/03/01
From: kris book
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:02:23 -0600
Hey Ted,
You are starting to sound very much like a "Parrothead". Please explain.
kris
> > The Weather is Here, Wish you were Fine.>
> Tally Ho!
>
> Tedzo
>
>
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| Message 17
Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 05/03/01
From: "TGTX"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:36:10 -0500
> Hey Ted,
> You are starting to sound very much like a "Parrothead". Please explain.
> kris
> > > The Weather is Here, Wish you were Fine.
I'm all over the map in the Daily Planet Globe of my tiny little mind
.so if Tommy Jefferson, Ben Franklin, Jimmy Buffet, Jerry Garcia, William F.
Buckley, Charlie Chaplin, Bonnie Rait, Maggie Thatcher, and Will Rogers
prove to be influential components to the ad hoc TGTX Zeitgeist, then sew
bee it.
Love you folks
Amen.
TGTX.
| Message 18
Subject: Re: Sterling Engine for cooling
From: "TGTX"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:53:55 -0500
Way cool, Frank!
But, just a reminder
.send your stuff in plain text format, not HTML.
But, anyway
.Way cool!
TGTX.
| Message 19
Subject: Vacation
From: DAVEINBHAM 'at' aol.com
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 00:24:13 EDT
I took a shot at SuperTed this morning and I regret I will be outta town and
unable to reply for the next week due to sudden unexpected vacation option
available to me at Dauphin Island, Alabama, the place where you can actually
hear your car rusting on a quiet night.
See y'all in a week.I will have a beer and toast everyone on this list at
sundown each day.
Kindest regards,
Dave
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