Aquaponics Digest - Sun 06/10/01
Message 1: Re: Long term filtering of non-chlorinated swimming hole
from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Message 2: Re: Long term filtering of non-chlorinated swimming hole
from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Message 3: Re: Pacu
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 4: Re: Pacu (picture of)
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 5: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Sat 06/09/01
from David Weeks
Message 6: RE: New addition to list
from "Jorge Revenga"
Message 7: RE: New addition to list
from Darren Pearce
Message 8: affordable feed source(s)
from Darren Pearce
Message 9: Aquaponics gone international. from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Message 10: Re: Aquaponics gone international. from "Arlos"
Message 11: Re: Aquaponics gone international. from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Message 12: Re: Aquaponics gone international. from "TGTX"
Message 13: Re: Flying Pacu
from fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Message 14: Re: Aquaponics gone international. from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 15: RE: Aquaponics gone international. from "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Message 16: Re: Gold fish - Koi
from "Steven Medlock"
Message 17: OT Polytank bath
from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Message 18: Re: OT Polytank bath
from "TGTX"
Message 19: Fw: BREAST CANCER
from "Frank Stancato"
Message 20: RE:OT
BREAST CANCER
from "billevans"
Message 21: Re: BREAST CANCER
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 22: RE: OT breast cancer
from Darren Pearce
| Message 1
Subject: Re: Long term filtering of non-chlorinated swimming hole
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:23:46 -0700
Ok Carolyn.
Sounds like you pretty much know what you want. I would suggest this
plan of action.
Stop the frogs from getting into your poind area.
Continue skimming for eggs and trash
or do the following
Get a
shipping barrel, one with a "clamping ring" it can be one of the blue
drums that some chemicals come in
just make sure it is clean of
residue. Cut out three holes on the side of the drum or whatever is
aesthetically pleasing to you
. clamp in a fine sheet old curtain over
the top of the drum by placing it over the mouth of the drum and giving
it a 2 foot "belly" into the drum.
Alternatively, a rig that Bruce suggested but the support modified by me
is, use four pieces of 1/2 rebar steel about 4 feet long and twist a
binding wire at around the 18 inch mark so that the steel bars can be
splayed to make a rough inverted square pyramid
( think of an inverted
square tent/tipi
) and then place an old sheet over it. Wrap where the
sheet covers the "legs" with binding wire so that it will not tear th
sheet.
Float or support your pump intake so the the inlet hose is under the
surface by about 18 inches
the vortex created here should be strong
enough to suck the eggs with it
the first time you do this you may
need to "vacuum" those nesting sites.
Hook up your gas pump , pump the pond water through either the drum rig
or the sheet filter and observe. Watch what type of scum you find and
whether the eggs are being removed
. and whether this saves you time by
screening out your eggs and trash. Empty either filter or throw entire
rag away by just removing the clamp on the drum and going
.!!Basta.
I think there are some frog screens that are basically a foot high edge
that stops the frogs from jumping over it
try using a foot wide edging
of shadecloth or any such material
by the length needed to surround
your swimming hole.Just keep this up a few days. Shoo out all frogs
before putting up the barrier. You may have to go out in the evening as
these animals are nocturnal.
So much for the frogs/tadpoles/tad's poo
I learnt something cuz I
didnt know tadpoles pooed
. but thats another story
.lol.
I think your terraced pool idea is good. Use the excess liner you have
to create this effect if your soil type isnt conducive to holding water.
fill these with the plants you mentioned creating the desired effect. If
you want to keep the frogs at bay
. make only SMALL indentations in the
gravel where you want these guys to hang out. Landscape the bogs as you
desire. IMHO, leave the bog nearest to the "top"
.furthest from the
reentry to the pool open till the system is running. fill this one
moderately with gravel. If you need to adjust ph later you can always
add some limestone rocks to this pool to buffer the ph. Use the pump you
have set out, taking water from the common area, maybe the swimming area
to keep this area's water changed as often as possible and pump to the
channel you mention. Let the water cascade, and trickle down through the
plants and beds. AS said
a trick to do if you dont want that much
activity in terms of aquatic animals is to keep the recirculating flow
low as to keepo the water BELOW the gravel line
let the water cascade
in a mini water at least once or twice
. gurgling is good for
relaxation
makes you just wanna pee in the bath water and draw for a
cool drink
oops sorry
I hope that by removing the scum and eggs now you will have cleaned up
the next generation of frogs from coming
.just be consistent in your
attack! Change the filters as needed for the startup and discard the
scum. It could be argued to do this after the building but my idea here
is to get rid of a potential "later" problem, namely the new frogs.
I am using a similar approach as you in my hatchery design in regard to
solar. I will be using a solar panel to charge a battery "tops", then
use a solar pump to move water around the hatchery when the utility
power fails. I will backup by using a solenoid that will trip to injet
oxygen into my tanks
or maybe after layout, I will find that the DO is
fine after spraying back my water into the tanks who knows??
In your case you can use solar power to move up to a thousand gallons
the hour with a good sump or bilge pump (12v)
!! This way your
wetlands and constantly primed with water. Bear in mind to that these
pumps can pump well only at heads of about 4 feet! There are special
built high head solar pumps but I am basing this statement on a
run-of-the-DIY store bilge pump from the boating section of a good
store.
I can only restate
you will be DELIGHTED with the clear water that you
will get. And, what is gonna stop you from putting a good liquid
fertiliser into your pond water to get it kickstarted? Im sure you could
decide once a month for example to shower "from the drum" of stored
pumped pond water, while you add a little "boost-me-up
. brand x" nutri
juice??
That too is possible so I dont think your plants or yourself need to
worry. Btw, as a side bar
. it is said that our forefathers didnt bathe
as much as we do
. and that too often bathing with all sort of soaps
actually INCREASES the risk of feminine probs, skin odors, and the
likes. I believe after studying first hand what happens in
biofiltration, that too frequent washing could kill beneficial skin
bacteria. Just a sidebar
.:> hehehehhe, yes I admit, before anyone
asks
a cool wash off just with water DOES alternate in my washing
rituals.
Have a restful rest day to all
(but do have one!! :> )
Mike
JAMAICA
PS.
Think also of using ducks to get rid of the tadpoles, and they can be
eaten
yummy
.!! Or you could borrow some from someone and return
them later?? :> Duckweed can be used to shade ponds and keep out the
algae from all the uncovered areas of water.
| Message 2
Subject: Re: Long term filtering of non-chlorinated swimming hole
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:33:06 -0700
Bear in mind that water exposed to the sun will grow algae! provided
there is a minimum of nutrients to sustain growth. Think carefully about
whether or not you want to expose more water surface than you are
willing to have (tadpoles :>) in or willig to treat for algae, think
about subsurface flow through those bogs of yours
cascade water for
sounds and oxygen but in your design
.plan OUT the things you dont want
or have the time to deal with
in this case skimming scum or clearing
algae
Shallow water is not bad but even shallow NONMOVING water is bad
.!!
Just a few afterthoughts
Mike
JAMAICA
Carolyn Hoagland wrote:
< Do U have a workable idea of what layout you want to use in terms of
> landscape considerations?
> Yes - a lined pea gravel bed 18" deep 3' wide and 20' long, then
> another 30 feet of shallow, terraced pools which are really a slow
> moving creek
snip
My hope is to
> use a solar operated pump to move water to the top of the constructed
> wetland whenever the sun is shining, the wetland will be resting,
> mostly stagnant under conditions of no sun.
| Message 3
Subject: Re: Pacu
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:57:50 -0500
What happened to Wendy? Is she no longer on the list. She is the lady who
identified this "damned" carp I have in my pond. She is/was a tremendous
resource person.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 3:29 PM
Subject: Pacu
Paula,
I believe Wendy Ngurny (?) who used to participate on this list
regularly had and loved Pacu in her University research tanks
somewhere in Virginia.
Adriana
> Don't have too much time, but I did find some earlier Pacu
conversations in
> the archives. If anyone currently on-list has something to add,
please do.
| Message 4
Subject: Re: Pacu (picture of)
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:08:11 -0500
HOLY FRAPPING MOLY!!
The more I see of these fish, the more interested I am.
http://www.fishingasia.com/pacu.htm
Thanks a lot Frank.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Stancato"
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: Pacu (picture of)
Steve, check out this website. You thought that the catfish was big. You
probably would not grow your Pacu's this large for marketing, but what
fillets they would make.
Frank
http://www.fishingasia.com/pacu.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "STEVE SPRING"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:39 PM
Subject: Pacu (picture of)
> HOLY MOLY!!
>
> We have this conversation about Pacu. I had no idea what they looked like,
> so I looked them up. HOLY MOLY!! Take a look at THIS!!
>
> http://www.alanet.com.br/com/prj_pacu/pacui001.htm
>
> I'm amazed. I'm a Georgia boy & I "ain't" never seen a catfish like that!
> Pirannah
.no way
.that's a catfish!
>
> Later
Steve
>
>
>
| Message 5
Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Sat 06/09/01
From: David Weeks
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
Jim, In the Aquaponic system desing manual available from the Freshwater
Institute,(West Virginia) they operate the pumps to the gravel beds only
durring the day time. However, they use air pumps for airation 24 hrs a day.
I would suggest that as long as provision is made for airation that the
on-off thing would work. Prehaps providing a bypass with a shower effect on
the main pump that would be activated durring the night, and placing the
pump on a timer for the night would do the trick. Maybe this would keep the
water warmer in the winter also?? Just a thought.
David
From: "Jim Joyner"
>To:
>Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 4:10 PM
>Subject: off and on
>
>
> > In a system such as the Speraneo's, would it advisable, or even safely
> > possible, to turn the pumping system off at night (back on at daylight)?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jim Joyner
| Message 6
Subject: RE: New addition to list
From: "Jorge Revenga"
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:02:27 -0300
Hello Devon:
Better late than never. Congratulations!!! Be ready for interrupted
sleeping. With my second doughter I spent 6,5 months without sleeping an
entire night. But it was wonderfull, any way!!!. Good luck!!!!!!!!!
Jorge Revenga
Argentina
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Devon Williams
Para: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Fecha: Miércoles 6 de Junio de 2001 16:11
Asunto: OT: New addition to list
>Hi everyone, I just wanted to send a note to the aquaponics family
>announcing my latest off-list happenings.
>
>My wife and I recently found out we are expecting our second child!!!
He/she
>is due the end of January 2002!
>
>Just wanted to share.
>
>Devon Williams
>Beer Belly Brothers Brewing
>Watkinsville, GA
>
| Message 7
Subject: RE: New addition to list
From: Darren Pearce
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:46:39 -0400
Devon
Congratulations of the highest order and best wishes to you all!
Darren
| Message 8
Subject: affordable feed source(s)
From: Darren Pearce
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:52:38 -0400
Thanks again guys
My local feed store actually had a 32%, 1/4" floating feed in stock.I think
I'll take the wife out to dinner with my new-found wealth (savings)
. or I
could buy more fish, another pump or.
Yours
Darren
| Message 9
Subject: Aquaponics gone international.From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:45:44 -0700
Someone mentioned a site in the Phillipines doing aquaponics.
Take a look at this. Finally found it in my files.
http://www.crees.org/aquaculture.htm
http://www.crees.org/aquaculture/info/mhsphotos.htm
Enjoy looking at this and most of all BE INSPIRED
.( as I was
) !!
Have a blessed day all
. :>
Mike.
JAMAICA.
| Message 10
Subject: Re: Aquaponics gone international.From: "Arlos"
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:03:58 -0700
Mike,
To say that was inspiring was an understatement indeed!!!! I'm taking off
to get a private behind the scenes tour of an abalone farm south of Big Sur
along the central California coast. Yea, riding a BMW along the coast is
rough but someone has to do it
. If the photos come out decent I'll post
them. Even though this is pure marine aquaculture it is related to the field
of aquaponics. Here is the site for the AB farm for those land locked and
those with coastal access to attempt this
. http://www.abalonefarm.com/
Enjoy this Sunday!
Arlos
-----Original Message-----
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Date: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:36 AM
Subject: Aquaponics gone international.
>Someone mentioned a site in the Phillipines doing aquaponics.
>Take a look at this. Finally found it in my files.
>
>http://www.crees.org/aquaculture.htm
>
>http://www.crees.org/aquaculture/info/mhsphotos.htm
>
>
>Enjoy looking at this and most of all BE INSPIRED
.( as I was
) !!
>Have a blessed day all
. :>
>
>Mike.
>JAMAICA.
>
| Message 11
Subject: Re: Aquaponics gone international.From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:45:02 -0700
Is that a BMW bike or cabrio car?? Hehe
wish I could join
you
.Jamaicans are known to favour the Kawasaki "Ninja"!! Cool stuff.be careful, and come back safely
been enjoying your techie input.
Still looking forwards to the shots of those blowers!!
Laterz.
Mike B.
on a lazy hot and humid Sunday afternoon.
thinking of filling a polytank and going for a dip
.hmmmm
Arlos wrote:
> Mike,
>
> To say that was inspiring was an understatement indeed!!!!
Yea, riding a BMW along the coast is rough but someone has to do it.
| Message 12
Subject: Re: Aquaponics gone international.From: "TGTX"
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:09:09 -0500
I think I will fill the 450 gallon poly today, myself, and float like a big
pacu while my wife throws me a chilled orange
Ted
TexPacu
> Mike B.
> on a lazy hot and humid Sunday afternoon.>
> thinking of filling a polytank and going for a dip
.hmmmm
>
| Message 13
Subject: Re: Flying Pacu
From: fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:48:57 -0500 (CDT)
Arlos If you import the pacu as an aquarium fish you dont need a permit
after all it is a regulary stocked item on fish store shelves!
Bruce
| Message 14
Subject: Re: Aquaponics gone international.From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:16:42 -0500
At 12:45 PM 06/10/2001 -0700, Mike in Jamaica wrote:
>Someone mentioned a site in the Phillipines doing aquaponics.
>Take a look at this. Finally found it in my files.
>
>http://www.crees.org/aquaculture.htm
>
>http://www.crees.org/aquaculture/info/mhsphotos.htm
>
Thanks, Mike -- most encouraging!
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
| Message 15
Subject: RE: Aquaponics gone international.From: "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:46:36 +0100
Great shots.
This site appears to be located to the east of the
Philipinnes in the Mariannas Islands. This includes Saipan and Guam.
These Islands are still under the USA I beleive.
A lot of Philipino 'at' s live and work there.
( just for the record )
Steve H
-----Original Message-----
From: S & S Aqua Farm [mailto:snsaquasys 'at' townsqr.com]
Sent: 11 June 2001 04:17
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Subject: Re: Aquaponics gone international.
At 12:45 PM 06/10/2001 -0700, Mike in Jamaica wrote:
>Someone mentioned a site in the Phillipines doing aquaponics.
>Take a look at this. Finally found it in my files.
>
>http://www.crees.org/aquaculture.htm
>
>http://www.crees.org/aquaculture/info/mhsphotos.htm
>
Thanks, Mike -- most encouraging!
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
| Message 16
Subject: Re: Gold fish - Koi
From: "Steven Medlock"
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:27:11 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: Gold fish - Koi
> Just got a flyer in the Greenhouse Producer News yesterday
> that has an ad for Koi (4" for $.95, 50 min). Haven't
> checked koi prices lately so don't know how that compares
> and we've never ordered from them before. They also list
> pond plants and will do a weekly fax of specials.
>
> Animals Etc., Inc.
> 551 Rt 130 S
> Burlington, NJ 08016
> 1-800-631-PETS
> 1-800-650-PETS (Fax)
>
> Marcy Nameth
>
> Chris Jeppesen wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know a (cheap) source for gold fish or koi.
> >
> I have done a search aroung the internet and St. Louis erea, I have foud
that 2 to 2.50 is normal for the non show quality fish. I am in contact
with a local pet store that is selling quit a few small, 4 inches for five
and six dollars a piece to local water garden owners. There looks to be a
market around here.
Steve
| Message 17
Subject: OT Polytank bath
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:42:32 -0700
Hehehehe,
I followed thru with my thoughts
. was grrrrrreat!! Ted, forgot to
ask
is there anyway you can repair the tank that got busted??
Man
never knew a lil water could be so refreshing
. bbbrrr
YYYYyyyes!! :>
Mike.
TGTX wrote:
>
> I think I will fill the 450 gallon poly today, myself, and float like a big
> pacu while my wife throws me a chilled orange
>
> Ted
> TexPacu
>
> > Mike B.
> > on a lazy hot and humid Sunday afternoon.> >
> > thinking of filling a polytank and going for a dip
.hmmmm
> >
| Message 18
Subject: Re: OT Polytank bath
From: "TGTX"
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 18:35:24 -0500
>forgot to ask
is there anyway you can repair the tank that got busted??
Ya, it's O.K.,, I think
I'll have to take the truck and tow the parts
back to the site, and do some fiberglas repair, but I THINK it is all
salvagable
thanks for asking
will report when the time is full
> Man
never knew a lil water could be so refreshing
. bbbrrr
I was told that the Essenes at Quoram(sp) would ritually bathe in cold
water
.refreshing all things.
| Message 19
Subject: Fw: BREAST CANCER
From: "Frank Stancato"
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:38:16 -0700
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: ; ;
; ;
; ;
; ;
; "Peggy" ;
"Frank Stancato" ; ;
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:37 AM
Subject: Fw: BREAST CANCER
> Jennifer Condon
> Executive Secretary to the Assistant Superintendent
> Orange-Ulster BOCES
> jcondon 'at' ouboces.org
> Phone: (845) 291-0121
> Fax: (845) 291-0138
> ----- Forwarded by JENNIFER CONDON/BOCES on 06/08/2001 09:37 AM -----
>
> "Murray
> Thurston" To: "Jennifer Condon"
> , "Joan
> net> Harkness" ,
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> 06/07/2001 ,
"Tanna Edwards"
> 04:34 AM , "Tammy
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rimstead"
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> ,
"Doug & Jane
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"Betty Verner"
> , "Mavis
Harris"
> ,
"Meredith
> Morris" ,
"Ann Robertson"
> , "Ann Carter"
> , "Jess
Collins"
>
> cc:
> Subject: Fw: BREAST CANCER
>
>
>
>
> Food for thought! Marlene.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Judy & Larry Reid
> To: Susan Shaw ; Shirley Ellison ; Shelly Sargent ; Rebekah Chevalier ;
> Patricia Palmer ; Molly Moir ; Mike Erickson ; Michelle Kazimirek ;
Michael
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:29 PM
> Subject: Fw: BREAST CANCER
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mary LaPier
> To: Alma Moir ; Maggie Golding ; Valerie Bartlett ; Sue Taylor ; Denise
> Jones ; Tammy Buist ; Sharon LaPier ; Shannon Cotnam ; Bob Donovan ; Katy
> Woods ; Christopher Woods
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:29 AM
> Subject: Fw: BREAST CANCER
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jody Stock
> To: 'gwhite 'at' tct.net' ; 'prawding 'at' ns.sympatico.ca' ; 'pam 'at' theunitedway.ca'
;
> 'juliecan25 'at' hotmail.com' ; 'Mary' ; Jo-Ella Maitland ; Sandi Cooke-Tidball
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> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:29 AM
> Subject: FW: BREAST CANCER
>
>
>
> An interesting clipping, I've heard about this!! Have a great day.
>
>
> Jody Stock
> Transportation Co-ordinator
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Laforest
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:10 AM
> To: Jody Stock; Penny Parker; Alanna Adair; Judi Gilliland
> Subject: FW: BREAST CANCER
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justene Phoenix [SMTP:JPhoenix 'at' nu-gro.ca]
> Sent: May 30, 2001 11:38 AM
> To: Justene (E-mail); Donna Wood - Work (E-mail); Cathie Wilson; Joey
> Harding (E-mail); Kelly McPhail (E-mail); 'Gail Adamson' (E-mail); Patty
> Adamson (E-mail); Wanda Woman (E-mail); Judy Laforest
>
>
> Subject: FW: BREAST CANCER
>
>
> > I'm forwarding this to everyone I know because it makes so much sense.
> > Please forward it to everyone you care about and even those you don't.
> > Ladies, be aware! Gentlemen, pass this on to the ladies in our life!
> > Sometime ago, I attended a Breast-Cancer-Awareness seminar. During the
> > Q&A
> > period, I asked why the most common area for breast cancer was near the
> > arm
> > pit. My question could not be answered at that time. This e-mail was
just
>
> > sent to me, and I find it very interesting that my question has been
> > answered. I challenge you all to re-think your daily use of a product
> that
> >
> > could ultimately lead to a terminal illness. As of today, I will change
> > my
> > use. A friend forwarded this to me. I showed it to a friend going
through
>
> > chemotherapy and she said she learned this fact in a support group
> > recently.
> > I wish I had known it 14 years ago. I just got information from a health
> > seminar that I would like to share. The leading cause breast cancer is
> the
> >
> > use of anti-perspirant. What? A concentration of toxins leads to cell
> > mutations, a.k.a.CANCER. Yes, ANTI-PERSPIRANT. Most of the products
out
>
> > there are an anti-perspirant/deodorant combination, so go home and
check.
>
> > Deodorant is fine, anti-perspirant is not. Here's why. The human body
has
> > a
> > few areas that it uses to purge toxins from the body-behind the knees,
> > behind the ears, the groin area, and armpits. The toxins are purged in
> > the
> > form of perspiration. Anti-perspirant, as the name clearly indicates,
> > prevents you from perspiring, thereby inhibiting the body from purging
> > toxins
> > from below the armpits. These toxins do not just magically disappear.
> > Instead, the body deposits them in the lymph nodes below the arms since
> it
> >
> > cannot sweat them out. Nearly all breast cancer tumors occur in the
> upper
> >
> > outside quadrant of the breast area. This is precisely where the lymph
> > nodes
> > are located. Additionally, men are less likely (but not completely
> > exempt)
> > to develop breast cancer prompted by anti-perspirant usage because most
> > of
> > the anti-perspirant product is caught in their hair and is not directly
> > applied to the skin. Women who apply anti-perspirant right after
shaving
>
> > increase the risk further because having causes almost imperceptible
> > nicks
> > in the skin which give the chemicals entrance into the body from the
> > armpit
> > area. PLEASE pass this along to anyone you care about. Breast cancer is
> > becoming frighteningly common. This awareness may save lives. If you
are
>
> > skeptical about these findings, I urge you to do some research for
> > yourself. You might just arrive at the same conclusions. Thank you.
> > Katrina Scott Asst. Director of Sports Marketing University of
Maryland
>
> >
> > P.O. Box 295 Cole Field House/Campus Drive College Park, MD 20741-0295
> > Breast Cancer Awareness Month n honor of breast cancer awareness month
> and
> > in
> > memory of Erma > >Bombeck > >who lost her fight with cancer. Here is an
> > angel
> > sent to watch over > >you.> >* . * (\ *** /) * . * > >* * ( \(_)/ ) * *
> > * . (_/ \_) . * > >* . * /___\ * . * > >Please pass this on to five
> women
> > that you want watched over. If you > >don't > >know five women to pass
> > this
> > on to, one will do just fine. >
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > > >IF I HAD MY LIFE TO LIVE OVER (by Erma Bombeck) > >
> I would have talked less and listened more. > >
> I would have invited friends over to dinner even if the carpet was
stained
> and the sofa faded.
> I would have eaten the popcorn in the "GOOD" living room and worried much
> less about the dirt
> when someone wanted to light a fire in thefireplace. > >
> I would have taken the time to listen to my grandfather ramble about his
> youth. >
> I would never have insisted the car windows be rolled up on a summer day
> because my hair had just been teased and sprayed.
>
>
> I would have burned the pink candle sculpted like a rose before it
Meltedin
> storage.
> I would have sat on the lawn with my children and not worried about
> Grassstains. > >
> I would have cried and laughed less while watching television and more
> while watching life. > >
> I would have gone to bed when I was sick instead of pretending the earth
> would go into a holding pattern if I
> weren't there for the day.
> I would never have bought anything just because it was practical,
wouldn't
> show soil or was guaranteed to last a lifetime
>
>
> Instead of wishing away nine months of pregnancy, I'd have cherished every
> moment realizing that the wonderment growing inside
>
>
> me was the only chance in life to assist God in a miracle. > >
> When my kids kissed me impetuously, I would never have said, "Later.Now go
> get washed up for dinner." > >
> There would have been more "I love you"
. more
> "I'm sorry"
but > >mostly, > >given another shot at life, I would seize
> every minute
. look at it and really see it
. live it
. and never
> give it back. > >I would tell all my friends that I need and love them all
> that my > >life > >would be empty without them! > > >
>
>
>
>
>
| Message 20
Subject: RE:OT
BREAST CANCER
From: "billevans"
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:19:29 -0700
Boy that was an eyeful, doesn't anybody know how to edit
Ive a different url and take on the big C.
bille
.( link below)
"The 1931 Nobel laureate in medicine, German Otto Warburg, Ph.D., first
discovered that cancer cells have a fundamentally different energy
metabolism compared to healthy cells. The crux of his Nobel thesis was that
malignant tumors frequently exhibit an increase in anaerobic glycolysis--a
process whereby glucose is used as a fuel by cancer cells with lactic acid
as an anaerobic byproduct--compared to normal tissues.1 The large amount of
lactic acid produced by this fermentation of glucose from cancer cells is
then transported to the liver. This conversion of glucose to lactate
generates a lower, more acidic pH in cancerous tissues as well as overall
physical fatigue from lactic acid buildup.2,3 Thus, larger tumors tend to
exhibit a more acidic pH.4
This inefficient pathway for energy metabolism yields only 2 moles of
adenosine triphosphate (ATP) energy per mole of glucose, compared to 38
moles of ATP in the complete aerobic oxidation of glucose. By extracting
only about 5 percent (2 vs. 38 moles of ATP) of the available energy in the
food supply and the body's calorie stores, the cancer is "wasting" energy,
and the patient becomes tired and undernourished. This vicious cycle
increases body wasting.5 It is one reason why 40 percent of cancer patients
die from malnutrition, or cachexia.6
Hence, cancer therapies should encompass regulating blood-glucose levels via
diet, supplements, non-oral solutions for cachectic patients who lose their
appetite, medication, exercise, gradual weight loss and stress reduction.
Professional guidance and patient self-discipline are crucial at this point
in the cancer process. The quest is not to eliminate sugars or carbohydrates
from the diet but rather to control blood glucose within a narrow range to
help starve the cancer and bolster immune function. "
http://www.mercola.com/article/sugar/sugar_cancer.htm
, ( a zillion email addresses)
ANTI-PERSPIRANT. Most of the products
out there are an anti-perspirant/deodorant combination, so go home and
check.
| Message 21
Subject: Re: BREAST CANCER
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:19:26 -0500
Frank, et. al.,
I'm trying to be good and not post any messages that have the potential of
negative rebuttal, BUT, you got to be SH
me and all of us with this!
Breast cancer is a very serious and very personal tragedy, but I doubt
seriously that it is caused by underarm deodorant. Men use under-arm
deodorant and many of us have fatty tissue in our breast, but we don't get
breast cancer. European women don't, as a rule, use under-arm deodorant and
they still get Breast Cancer.
Frank, I really appreciate your Pacu post, but you are stretching with this
one.
Steve :>{ ???
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Stancato"
To: "Marc & Terry Cote"
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 11:38 PM
Subject: Fw: BREAST CANCER
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: ; ;
; ;
; ;
; ;
; "Peggy" ;
"Frank Stancato" ; ;
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:37 AM
Subject: Fw: BREAST CANCER
> Jennifer Condon
> Executive Secretary to the Assistant Superintendent
> Orange-Ulster BOCES
> jcondon 'at' ouboces.org
> Phone: (845) 291-0121
> Fax: (845) 291-0138
> ----- Forwarded by JENNIFER CONDON/BOCES on 06/08/2001 09:37 AM -----
>
> "Murray
> Thurston" To: "Jennifer Condon"
> , "Joan
> net> Harkness" ,
"Lenore Carr"
> , "Kay Dawson"
> 06/07/2001 ,
"Tanna Edwards"
> 04:34 AM , "Tammy
Gamble"
> , "Mary Noble"
> , "myrna
rimstead"
> , "Gloria
Rutherford"
> ,
"Doug & Jane
> Thurston" ,
"Betty Verner"
> , "Mavis
Harris"
> ,
"Meredith
> Morris" ,
"Ann Robertson"
> , "Ann Carter"
> , "Jess
Collins"
>
> cc:
> Subject: Fw: BREAST CANCER
>
>
>
>
> Food for thought! Marlene.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Judy & Larry Reid
> To: Susan Shaw ; Shirley Ellison ; Shelly Sargent ; Rebekah Chevalier ;
> Patricia Palmer ; Molly Moir ; Mike Erickson ; Michelle Kazimirek ;
Michael
> and Charlene Dyet ; Meredith Morris ; Martha Garton ; Marlene Thurston ;
> Lynda Boucher ; Lorette Reid ; Karen Quance ; Joan Grandy ; George and
> Heather Colquhoun ; Elke Karsten ; Edward and Lorna Bellsmith ; Donna and
> Rolf Mantei ; Dianne Seguin ; Diane Lamanna ; Deb Procyk ; Amy Lashta
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:29 PM
> Subject: Fw: BREAST CANCER
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mary LaPier
> To: Alma Moir ; Maggie Golding ; Valerie Bartlett ; Sue Taylor ; Denise
> Jones ; Tammy Buist ; Sharon LaPier ; Shannon Cotnam ; Bob Donovan ; Katy
> Woods ; Christopher Woods
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:29 AM
> Subject: Fw: BREAST CANCER
>
>
> Mary LaPier
> WO Coaching & Recreation Co-ordinator
> 237 Consortium Ct
> London, ON
> N6E 2S8
> Tel: 519-686-0431 Ext 22
> Fax: 519-686-0593
> email: mlapier 'at' execulink.com
> website: www.skating-wos.on.ca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jody Stock
> To: 'gwhite 'at' tct.net' ; 'prawding 'at' ns.sympatico.ca' ; 'pam 'at' theunitedway.ca'
;
> 'juliecan25 'at' hotmail.com' ; 'Mary' ; Jo-Ella Maitland ; Sandi Cooke-Tidball
> ; Marcia Kennedy ; 'connie.grosso 'at' gm.com'
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:29 AM
> Subject: FW: BREAST CANCER
>
>
>
> An interesting clipping, I've heard about this!! Have a great day.
>
>
> Jody Stock
> Transportation Co-ordinator
> Phone: 481-3108
> Fax: 481-3242
> Email: Stockjk 'at' novachem.com
> Opinions expressed by the author are not necessarily those of NOVA
> Chemicals.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Laforest
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:10 AM
> To: Jody Stock; Penny Parker; Alanna Adair; Judi Gilliland
> Subject: FW: BREAST CANCER
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justene Phoenix [SMTP:JPhoenix 'at' nu-gro.ca]
> Sent: May 30, 2001 11:38 AM
> To: Justene (E-mail); Donna Wood - Work (E-mail); Cathie Wilson; Joey
> Harding (E-mail); Kelly McPhail (E-mail); 'Gail Adamson' (E-mail); Patty
> Adamson (E-mail); Wanda Woman (E-mail); Judy Laforest
>
>
> Subject: FW: BREAST CANCER
>
>
> > I'm forwarding this to everyone I know because it makes so much sense.
> > Please forward it to everyone you care about and even those you don't.
> > Ladies, be aware! Gentlemen, pass this on to the ladies in our life!
> > Sometime ago, I attended a Breast-Cancer-Awareness seminar. During the
> > Q&A
> > period, I asked why the most common area for breast cancer was near the
> > arm
> > pit. My question could not be answered at that time. This e-mail was
just
>
> > sent to me, and I find it very interesting that my question has been
> > answered. I challenge you all to re-think your daily use of a product
> that
> >
> > could ultimately lead to a terminal illness. As of today, I will change
> > my
> > use. A friend forwarded this to me. I showed it to a friend going
through
>
> > chemotherapy and she said she learned this fact in a support group
> > recently.
> > I wish I had known it 14 years ago. I just got information from a health
> > seminar that I would like to share. The leading cause breast cancer is
> the
> >
> > use of anti-perspirant. What? A concentration of toxins leads to cell
> > mutations, a.k.a.CANCER. Yes, ANTI-PERSPIRANT. Most of the products
out
>
> > there are an anti-perspirant/deodorant combination, so go home and
check.
>
> > Deodorant is fine, anti-perspirant is not. Here's why. The human body
has
> > a
> > few areas that it uses to purge toxins from the body-behind the knees,
> > behind the ears, the groin area, and armpits. The toxins are purged in
> > the
> > form of perspiration. Anti-perspirant, as the name clearly indicates,
> > prevents you from perspiring, thereby inhibiting the body from purging
> > toxins
> > from below the armpits. These toxins do not just magically disappear.
> > Instead, the body deposits them in the lymph nodes below the arms since
> it
> >
> > cannot sweat them out. Nearly all breast cancer tumors occur in the
> upper
> >
> > outside quadrant of the breast area. This is precisely where the lymph
> > nodes
> > are located. Additionally, men are less likely (but not completely
> > exempt)
> > to develop breast cancer prompted by anti-perspirant usage because most
> > of
> > the anti-perspirant product is caught in their hair and is not directly
> > applied to the skin. Women who apply anti-perspirant right after
shaving
>
> > increase the risk further because having causes almost imperceptible
> > nicks
> > in the skin which give the chemicals entrance into the body from the
> > armpit
> > area. PLEASE pass this along to anyone you care about. Breast cancer is
> > becoming frighteningly common. This awareness may save lives. If you
are
>
> > skeptical about these findings, I urge you to do some research for
> > yourself. You might just arrive at the same conclusions. Thank you.
> > Katrina Scott Asst. Director of Sports Marketing University of
Maryland
>
> >
> > P.O. Box 295 Cole Field House/Campus Drive College Park, MD 20741-0295
> > Breast Cancer Awareness Month n honor of breast cancer awareness month
> and
> > in
> > memory of Erma > >Bombeck > >who lost her fight with cancer. Here is an
> > angel
> > sent to watch over > >you.> >* . * (\ *** /) * . * > >* * ( \(_)/ ) * *
> > * . (_/ \_) . * > >* . * /___\ * . * > >Please pass this on to five
> women
> > that you want watched over. If you > >don't > >know five women to pass
> > this
> > on to, one will do just fine. >
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > > >IF I HAD MY LIFE TO LIVE OVER (by Erma Bombeck) > >
> I would have talked less and listened more. > >
> I would have invited friends over to dinner even if the carpet was
stained
> and the sofa faded.
> I would have eaten the popcorn in the "GOOD" living room and worried much
> less about the dirt
> when someone wanted to light a fire in thefireplace. > >
> I would have taken the time to listen to my grandfather ramble about his
> youth. >
> I would never have insisted the car windows be rolled up on a summer day
> because my hair had just been teased and sprayed.
>
>
> I would have burned the pink candle sculpted like a rose before it
Meltedin
> storage.
> I would have sat on the lawn with my children and not worried about
> Grassstains. > >
> I would have cried and laughed less while watching television and more
> while watching life. > >
> I would have gone to bed when I was sick instead of pretending the earth
> would go into a holding pattern if I
> weren't there for the day.
> I would never have bought anything just because it was practical,
wouldn't
> show soil or was guaranteed to last a lifetime
>
>
> Instead of wishing away nine months of pregnancy, I'd have cherished every
> moment realizing that the wonderment growing inside
>
>
> me was the only chance in life to assist God in a miracle. > >
> When my kids kissed me impetuously, I would never have said, "Later.Now go
> get washed up for dinner." > >
> There would have been more "I love you"
. more
> "I'm sorry"
but > >mostly, > >given another shot at life, I would seize
> every minute
. look at it and really see it
. live it
. and never
> give it back. > >I would tell all my friends that I need and love them all
> that my > >life > >would be empty without them! > > >
>
>
>
>
>
| Message 22
Subject: RE: OT breast cancer
From: Darren Pearce
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:27:26 -0400
Just thought I'd add this.http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/science/urbanlegends/library/blnotes8.htm
Darren
(unencumbered by knowledge)
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