Aquaponics Digest - Thu 07/12/01
Message 1: Re: Fish injuries Sharks
from marc 'at' aculink.net
Message 2: Tilapia hunger factors
from "Leslie Ter Morshuizen"
Message 3: Fw: dealing with solids
from "Leslie Ter Morshuizen"
Message 4: Re: Fish Species for Aquaponics
from "Leslie Ter Morshuizen"
Message 5: Re: OT: Encouragement for a Major Mentor
was: Re: Southern Greenhouse Vegeta. from Bertmcl 'at' aol.com
Message 6: Re: PH adjustment
from Andrei.Calciu 'at' hn.va.nec.com
Message 7: RE: PH adjustment
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 8: RE: PH adjustment
from Andrei.Calciu 'at' hn.va.nec.com
Message 9: RE: PH adjustment
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 10: Re: OT: Encouragement for a Major Mentor
was: Re: Southern Greenhouse Vegeta. from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 11: France
from "Handwerker, Thomas S."
Message 12: Stawberry nutrient difficiency
from "Atlas Business Services"
Message 13: Re: Stawberry nutrient difficiency
from Gordon Watkins
Message 14: My new page
from "Carlos R. Arano"
Message 15: RE: PH adjustment
from "Harmon, Todd S."
Message 16: RE: PH adjustment
from Andrei.Calciu 'at' hn.va.nec.com
Message 17: tip for tomato growers
from "Steven Medlock"
Message 18: RE: tip for tomato growers
from "Nelson and Pade"
Message 19: RE: Fish Species for Aquaponics
from "Nelson and Pade"
Message 20: RE: PH adjustment
from "Wells, Mark CAR"
Message 21: Re: Stawberry nutrient difficiency
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 22: Packaging - tomato boxes
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 23: Strawberry shape
from "Jay Myers"
Message 24: Re: tip for tomato growers
from "Steven Medlock"
Message 25: Greenhouse URL gone missing, was Re: OT:
Lost mail
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 26: Re: PH adjustment
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 27: (no subject)
from N6XF 'at' aol.com
Message 28: RE: PH adjustment
from "Wells, Mark CAR"
Message 29: Search Results for "pollen tube"
from kris book
Message 30: Radiant barier:
from David Weeks
Message 31: Re: Greenhouse URL gone missing, was Re:
OT: Lost mail
from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Message 32: Re: Several ideas for managing the list
size
from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Message 33: Re: Several ideas for managing the list
size
from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Message 34: Re: Fish Species for Aquaponics
from "Leslie Ter Morshuizen"
| Message 1
Subject: Re: Fish injuries Sharks
From: marc 'at' aculink.net
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:12:36 -0600
No. I'm not trying to unsubscribe. Haven't even
thought of
it. Nope. Nyet. I like this list. It's bin berry berry
gud
tu me mon.
Best list in the entire world for Aquaponics.
Marc
> This also applies to Marc 'at' aculink. Bruce & I have
said the same about you. I
> read that Marc is trying to unsubscribe as well.
| Message 2
Subject: Tilapia hunger factors
From: "Leslie Ter Morshuizen"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:19:13 +0200
Hi Margi
There are a few major and many minor reasons affecting
fish hunger. The
first group includes water temperature, hunger and
oxygen levels, the rest
include ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, social
interactions, bad feed, etc. It
could be that whatever was suppressing their hunger
for 10 days has
cleared/improved and now they are hungry again. What
were the water quality
readings during the strike and what are they now?
The sun (photoperiod) is not an important factor for
tilapia feeding. It's
significance is overridden by water temperature.
Have fun,
Leslie
> Besides I have never met a fish person who can
resist a story. So stay and
> tell me why my Tilapia are ravenously eating
everything in sight after a
> self imposed hunger strike of ten days. Everyone in
Bronkhorstspruit has
> had their two cents theory: including that the fish
know the sun in on
it's
> way back to our part of the world. Who am I to
argue.
> Margi Gibbison
| Message 3
Subject: Fw: dealing with solids
From: "Leslie Ter Morshuizen"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:19:51 +0200
Ron
Your design sounds fascinating - I would love to be
forwarded a copy of the
diagram if you get to producing it as well as the
picture of the koi pond
system.
Thanks,
Leslie
> hope you can visualize from this explanation if not
I will try to do a
> diagram
> I have decided that this is the design that I will
use and all he other
> prototypes will be disassembled and switched over to
this one.
> Ron
| Message 4
Subject: Re: Fish Species for Aquaponics
From: "Leslie Ter Morshuizen"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:25:45 +0200
Hi Rebecca
What growth rate do you get on the koi and goldfish
and what densities were
they stocked at?
I my experience goldfish do not do well after about
1cm TL in crowded
conditions (>1 fish/10 litres), regardless of feed
availability and water
quality.
Regards,
Leslie
> Since we aren't allowed by the state (California) to
have tilapia we've
> cultured other species. I've successfully raised
large mouth bass,
> crappies, koi and goldfish in 500 gal. aquaponic
systems. Currently, I am
> Rebecca
| Message 5
Subject: Re: OT: Encouragement for a Major Mentor was:
Re: Southern Greenhouse Vegeta.From: Bertmcl 'at' aol.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:48:58 EDT
Ted, lots of luck. I just found out that I will be
making a presentation at
the AQUACULTURAL INTERNATION program in N.C. and guess
what I have about 30
months experience in Aquaponics and Mr. Gordon
Creaser will be the lead
instructor.I am also giving a tour for a group of High
School Teachers
tomorrow and Saturday is my SARE Cut Flower field day,
so maybe I will be
ready for my presentation in November.
I am also interested in purchasing your CD and whater
you may have aviailable.
Thanks
Bert
| Message 6
Subject: Re: PH adjustment
From: Andrei.Calciu 'at' hn.va.nec.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:49:19 -0400
There is a product called PhUp and another called
PhDown. Comes in bottles
and can be used to control Ph in a pinch. However, if
you can find a
natural way of controlling Ph long term, you would not
have to resort to an
emergency chemical infusion.
-_______________
Andrei D. Calciu (VA-4270)
NEC America, Inc.
14040 Park Center Dr.
Herndon, VA 20171-3227
Voice: 703-834-4273
Fax: 703-787-6613
This message and any attachment are confidential. If
you are not the
intended recipient, please telephone or email the
sender and delete the
message and any attachment from your system. If you
are not the intended
recipient you must not copy this message or attachment
or disclose the
contents to any other person.
"Wells, Mark CAR"
Sent by: cc:
aquaponics-request 'at' t
Subject: PH adjustment
ownsqr.com
07/11/01 08:57 PM
Please respond to
aquaponics
Hi Everyone,
I know there are many ways to raise and lower PH,
but what are the preferred methods from an aquaponics
perspective?
Thanks,
Mark
| Message 7
Subject: RE: PH adjustment
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:42:39 -0500
Thanks Andrei,
I have seen the product in my hydro catalogue. I'm
hoping
the system stabilizes within an acceptable range. Our
municipal water
PH is pretty high. It averages about 8.7 due to the
high calcium
carbonate level. I think I may end up using rainwater
(PH around 6.5)
as much as possible and adding enough of the municipal
water to bring
the PH up slightly.
What I was curious about was which acids/bases are
suitable for BOTH
fish and plants. Some may add salts that may be great
for the fish
but not the plants
.some may be good for the plants
but not the fish.
Mark
---
There is a product called PhUp and another called
PhDown. Comes in bottles
and can be used to control Ph in a pinch. However, if
you can find a
natural way of controlling Ph long term, you would not
have to resort to an
emergency chemical infusion.
| Message 8
Subject: RE: PH adjustment
From: Andrei.Calciu 'at' hn.va.nec.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:54:10 -0400
One salt that is good for the fish is NaCl (table
salt). In small
quantities it calms down the fish, especially if they
are stressed. I would
recommend some reading on the subject before turning
your tanks into big
fish-soup bowls :-)
-_______________
Andrei D. Calciu (VA-4270)
NEC America, Inc.
14040 Park Center Dr.
Herndon, VA 20171-3227
Voice: 703-834-4273
Fax: 703-787-6613
This message and any attachment are confidential. If
you are not the
intended recipient, please telephone or email the
sender and delete the
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| Message 9
Subject: RE: PH adjustment
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:27:05 -0500
Thanks Andrei,
I've kept south american and african cichlids for
years,.and yes I added salt
.but I would not add it to my
hydro plants.
That was the point of my post. I have read a lot
about PH
adjustment in hydro systems
.lots of info out there.
But
aquaponics is a relatively new science and there is
not as
much info on it. I was hoping to do some reading on
the subject
here
.that's why I joined the list :-). No soup
bowls here.I was more concerned with the acids used to bring a
very high PH
down that would not add excess salts to the grow beds
yet be safe
for the fish. Sulfuric acid is one example. Nitric
acid is preferrred
by many hydro growers but does is it OK for fish? I
was just wondering
what was PREFERRED and why.
Mark
----
One salt that is good for the fish is NaCl (table
salt). In small
quantities it calms down the fish, especially if they
are stressed. I would
recommend some reading on the subject before turning
your tanks into big
fish-soup bowls :-)
| Message 10
Subject: Re: OT: Encouragement for a Major Mentor was:
Re: Southern Greenhouse Vegeta.From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:38:12 -0500
Bert,
You are an expert in explaining the learning curve -
seriously,
teaching a novice what to expect and pitfalls to avoid
is very
bvaluable. I'm sure you and Ted will both do a great
job. Good luck
to both of you.
Adriana
> Ted, lots of luck. I just found out that I will be
making a
presentation at
> the AQUACULTURAL INTERNATION program in N.C. and
guess what I have
about 30
> months experience in Aquaponics and Mr. Gordon
Creaser will be the
lead
> instructor.
| Message 11
Subject: France
From: "Handwerker, Thomas S."
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:41:44 -0400
I have to been in France for several weeks the first
weeks of August
(it's a hard job but someone has to do it) to visit
some greenhouse
manufacturing facilities. Does anyone have any
suggests about
aquaculture research sites or aquaponic operations
that I might visit
while in-country?
Thanks for your advice,
Thomas S. Handwerker
Tshandwerker 'at' mail.umes.edu=20
http://www.skipjack.net/sfi
=20
| Message 12
Subject: Stawberry nutrient difficiency
From: "Atlas Business Services"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:41:36 -0600
Hello,
I am growing three species of Strawberries in LECA
pellets within my
aquaponics setup. The plants look fine and are sending
out runners and
establishing new plants often.
My problem is that when the blossoms become fruit, the
fruit is misshapen
and only completes half of its full cycle before the
fruit dries and turn
brown.
I assume that there is a lack of proper nutrients that
would allow the fruit
to completely flesh out and flush red.
Does anyone have any helpful information ?
Thanks,
Chris
250
gal/comets(goldfish)/greenhouse/strawberries,peppers,onions
| Message 13
Subject: Re: Stawberry nutrient difficiency
From: Gordon Watkins
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 13:31:10 -0500
Chris,
What you describe sounds more like poor
pollination. I grow organic
strawberries in field culture, and have grown them in
our aquaponic system as
well, and when we have poor conditions for bee/insect
pollination (ie: rainy,
windy, cold, etc) the fruit sometimes develops what is
called "cat faces", with
incomplete development of the fruit. In the
greenhouse, you can either release
pollinators or, on a small scale, hand pollinate with
a small watercolor brush.
If you want to rule out nutrient deficiency
problems, take a foliar sample
and send it to your local land-grant university for
analysis. We do so regularly
throughout the fruiting season. Contact your county
agent for details.
Gordon Watkins
Atlas Business Services wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am growing three species of Strawberries in LECA
pellets within my
> aquaponics setup. The plants look fine and are
sending out runners and
> establishing new plants often.
>
> My problem is that when the blossoms become fruit,
the fruit is misshapen
> and only completes half of its full cycle before the
fruit dries and turn
> brown.
>
> I assume that there is a lack of proper nutrients
that would allow the fruit
> to completely flesh out and flush red.
>
> Does anyone have any helpful information ?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 250
gal/comets(goldfish)/greenhouse/strawberries,peppers,onions
| Message 14
Subject: My new page
From: "Carlos R. Arano"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:29:41 -0300
Friends at Aquaponic list:
My new page is now in English and in Spanish
http://www.geocities.com/englc_arano
and
http://www.geocities.com/c_arano
Maybe some of you will like to read there about
conductivities.
As you know my English is not too good. I will
appreciate any grammar or
syntaxis correction. You can help me in improving it.
Send to my personal
address c.arano 'at' bigfoot.com
Regards from Argentina,
Carlos
| Message 15
Subject: RE: PH adjustment
From: "Harmon, Todd S."
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:09:48 -0400
Potassium hydroxide and calcium hydroxide will raise
pH and any acid will
lower pH. All these appear to be OK with the fish and
good for the plants.
Todd
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Allen Wells [mailto:mawells 'at' bpsinet.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 11:43 AM
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Subject: RE: PH adjustment
Thanks Andrei,
I have seen the product in my hydro catalogue. I'm
hoping
the system stabilizes within an acceptable range. Our
municipal water
PH is pretty high. It averages about 8.7 due to the
high calcium
carbonate level. I think I may end up using rainwater
(PH around 6.5)
as much as possible and adding enough of the municipal
water to bring
the PH up slightly.
What I was curious about was which acids/bases are
suitable for BOTH
fish and plants. Some may add salts that may be great
for the fish
but not the plants
.some may be good for the plants
but not the fish.
Mark
---
There is a product called PhUp and another called
PhDown. Comes in bottles
and can be used to control Ph in a pinch. However, if
you can find a
natural way of controlling Ph long term, you would not
have to resort to an
emergency chemical infusion.
| Message 16
Subject: RE: PH adjustment
From: Andrei.Calciu 'at' hn.va.nec.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:11:57 -0400
True, you can use some hydroxides and acids, but you
must keep in mind that
in an aquaponic system, whatever you give the fish
ends up with your plants
and vice-versa. Also, some users are 100% organic and
use of chemicals is a
big No-No in such cases.
Is there a more natural solution out there?
-_______________
Andrei D. Calciu (VA-4270)
NEC America, Inc.
14040 Park Center Dr.
Herndon, VA 20171-3227
Voice: 703-834-4273
Fax: 703-787-6613
This message and any attachment are confidential. If
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| Message 17
Subject: tip for tomato growers
From: "Steven Medlock"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:33:00 -0500
Hi all,
I have been fighting with pollination of my plants
for a few weeks, then
I went with the bees that was recommended. Not enough
time to tell if they
are doing their jobs well or not. Anyway the hand
pollinator that vibrates
I have found a cheap way of making one.
I happen to find one of my kids Squiggle Wiggle
Writers I guess they got
it at wal mart or the dime store, anyway it is
identical to the hand
pollinator. It has a weight in the rear that spins
and causes a wiggle. I
put a longer end on it using a piece of plastic and it
works great. And
they are cheap. Just another thought.
A question what do people use to package tomato's
for sale, and where is a
good place to get them?
Thanks,
Red
| Message 18
Subject: RE: tip for tomato growers
From: "Nelson and Pade"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:38:54 -0700
>I went with the bees that was recommended. Not
enough time to tell if
>they are doing their jobs well or not.
You can tell if the bees are pollinating the flowers
by inspecting the
pollen tube. If a flower has been pollinated by a
bee, the pollen tube will
have a small but noticeable puncture, which usually
turns brownish. If
environmental conditions are right, the bees do a much
more efficient and
effective job of pollinating than a human doing it by
hand.
Rebecca Nelson
Nelson/Pade Multimedia - Aquaponics Journal
www.aquaponics.com
tel: 209-742-6869 fax: 209-742-4402
| Message 19
Subject: RE: Fish Species for Aquaponics
From: "Nelson and Pade"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:38:55 -0700
> What growth rate do you get on the koi and goldfish
and what
> densities were
> they stocked at?
>
> I my experience goldfish do not do well after about
1cm TL in crowded
> conditions (>1 fish/10 litres), regardless of feed
availability and water
> quality.
I don't have accurate records on the growth rate but
the stocking density
was .3 -.5/lb of fish/gal of water. The koi and
goldfish were raised
together.
Rebecca Nelson
Nelson/Pade Multimedia - Aquaponics Journal
www.aquaponics.com
tel: 209-742-6869 fax: 209-742-4402
>
| Message 20
Subject: RE: PH adjustment
From: "Wells, Mark CAR"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:12:39 -0400
Thanks Todd and Andrei,
What prompted me to ask this was something I read on
a hydro page about the continued use of
muratic/hydrochloric
acid over time contributing to chloride salts building
up.
This figures because it is the cheapest and most
readily
available
.lol.
My goal is to build a ferrocement cistern and use as
much
rainwater as possible. I would rather raise the PH
with
hydroxides than lower it with acids. They are much
safer
to work with and the plants need the minerals anyway.
My hydro
only plants love the rainwater. No PH adjustment
needed
.just
add nutrients.
mark
| Message 21
Subject: Re: Stawberry nutrient difficiency
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:14:59 -0500
Hi Chris,
I recall reading a suggestion from a supplier about
removing the first
set of blossoms from the plants to avoid the problem
of misshapen
fruit. This may be your prblem but the shrivelling up
part doesn't
sound familiar. Perhaps a talk with your extension
agent or the
grower of your original plants will shed some light on
this. I
don't know where you're located but I can give the
name and number for
the agriculture extension agents in Palmetto, Florida
who are in the
heart of strawberry country. They don't quake in
their boots when
they hear "hydroponic" and they might be able to help
you.
Adriana
> My problem is that when the blossoms become fruit,
the fruit is
misshapen
> and only completes half of its full cycle before the
fruit dries and
turn
> brown.
| Message 22
Subject: Packaging - tomato boxes
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:18:22 -0500
http://montepkg.com/index.asp
> A question what do people use to package tomato's
for sale, and
where is a
> good place to get them?
| Message 23
Subject: Strawberry shape
From: "Jay Myers"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:45:00 -0500
The shape of a strawberry is determined by how good
the bee does his job
pollinating.
Jay
| Message 24
Subject: Re: tip for tomato growers
From: "Steven Medlock"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:53:26 -0500
Thanks for the tips on packaging and polination.
Sonds stupid but what
exactly is the pollin tube? I think I know but the
confirmation would be
good.
Thanks,
Red
----- Original Message -----
From: Nelson and Pade
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: tip for tomato growers
> >I went with the bees that was recommended. Not
enough time to tell if
> >they are doing their jobs well or not.
>
> You can tell if the bees are pollinating the flowers
by inspecting the
> pollen tube. If a flower has been pollinated by a
bee, the pollen tube
will
> have a small but noticeable puncture, which usually
turns brownish. If
> environmental conditions are right, the bees do a
much more efficient and
> effective job of pollinating than a human doing it
by hand.
>
> Rebecca Nelson
> Nelson/Pade Multimedia - Aquaponics Journal
> www.aquaponics.com
> tel: 209-742-6869 fax: 209-742-4402
>
>
| Message 25
Subject: Greenhouse URL gone missing, was Re: OT: Lost
mail
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:44:38 -0500
At 02:29 PM 07/06/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>I lost a mail sent to this group very recently from
someone who had a
>website on their new greenhouse with aquaponic
feature inbuilt, on a
>free website, 50megs 20megs or such like
>
>Could someone please send me this post, seems like I
have lost the mail.
>To whoever it was
it was inspiring!!!! Great
stuff
!!
>Thanks, Mike
Mike - I came across the site I think you're referring
to while looking
through some posts from the tilapia group. Here's the
website:
http://tomsgreenhouse.50megs.com/
New set-up going up in Tucson, AZ.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO
65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
| Message 26
Subject: Re: PH adjustment
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:14:05 -0500
At 08:57 PM 07/11/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I know there are many ways to raise and lower PH,
>but what are the preferred methods from an aquaponics
>perspective?
>
>Thanks,
>Mark
Mark - you've received several suggestions in response
to your post.
Evaluating the need for adjustment could depend
somewhat on your choice of
media. If you've posted that to the group, I can't
locate it right now.
What media are you using/planning to use?
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO
65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
| Message 27
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| Message 28
Subject: RE: PH adjustment
From: "Wells, Mark CAR"
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:39:10 -0400
Hi Paula,
I'm setting up a bed with pea gravel. As I mentioned
in my last response, I hope to use mostly rainwater
and excessively high PH won't be an issue anymore.
But
I'm setting the system up with municipal water and the
PH
is very high. I just wanted to make sure the acid I
bring
it down with was suitable for both fish and plants. I
think
I know the answer to that now but any input you may
have
is greatly appreciated.
I know the PH will drop some from it's initial point
after
a tank runs for a while. In an established, well ran
tank,
does it stabilize at that point or will it need
buffering?
thanks,
mark
| Message 29
Subject: Search Results for "pollen tube"
From: kris book
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 21:42:19 -0600
pollen tube
http://www.bartleby.com/cgi-bin/texis/webinator/sitesearch?FILTER=col61&q
uery=pollen+tube&x=8&y=11
| Message 30
Subject: Radiant barier:
From: David Weeks
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 21:14:12 -0700 (PDT)
Hi all,
I am considering the use of a reflective aluminized
plastic aircap type
material for the north side of the greenhouse. This
material is said to
reflect 97% of the energy that strikes it.
I have two questions: 1) will this turn the greenhouse
in to a huge solar
cooker? if not, 2)what effect will this kind of light
have on the plants, as to node length, phototropism or
other growth
influences?
Thanks, I appreciate any input, I realy don't wish to
make a big mistake.
Dave from Colorado
Marinatha Farm
'Seek and you will find, Knock, and it will be opened
unto you, ask and you
will receive'
| Message 31
Subject: Re: Greenhouse URL gone missing, was Re: OT:
Lost mail
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:39:02 -0700
YEeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssss!!!
Spot on!!
I realised I got my groups mixed
.thanks for that
cyber help!! And Jay
I DID see your site and let out a lot of sighs
I
would love to come
see your op one day since it wasnt possible with
Adrianna!! You have a
lovely site/sight !! And a greattttt looking farm even
if your tomatoes
are splitting
.lol.
Thanks much !!
Mike.
S & S Aqua Farm wrote:
> Mike - I came across the site I think you're
referring to while looking
> through some posts from the tilapia group. Here's
the website:
>
> http://tomsgreenhouse.50megs.com/
>
> New set-up going up in Tucson, AZ.
>
| Message 32
Subject: Re: Several ideas for managing the list size
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:51:08 -0700
Excellent post, and well put David. May I add, that
for discussion, it
takes input, and for input as Paula says, there is no
"guide". We all DO
keep well on topic MOST of the time. This is one of
the most
"well-behaved" groups I know around, and I should be
able to tell.
I subscribe and post to 18 groups, and recieve easily
business and group
mail in excess of 50-150 mails a day! Knowing how to
use a delete button
helps.
ALL questions are valid here
and Ive always had good
replies, ever
since years ago when I came out of lurkdom
. :>
No need to frazzle efforts
. I agree with David 100%
"If you want my
vote. Do not change the list. Keep it as is. It is a
great list."
Mike
David Atkinson wrote:
>
> Hi, My two cents worth. (specific to the idea to
create two lists
> from this one)
> ----
> I have been on this list a long time. We have had a
lot of new
> persons subscribing to the list. The purpose most
of these persons
> have are to learn from the experiences of others.
This process of
> sharing information relating to aquaponics helps us
all.
> -----
> If you want my vote. Do not change the list. Keep
it as is. It is a
> great list.
>
> David A
> from Jamaica W.I.
> (atkindw 'at' cybervale.com)
>
>
| Message 33
Subject: Re: Several ideas for managing the list size
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:51:43 -0700
Excellent post, and well put David. May I add, that
for discussion, it
takes input, and for input as Paula says, there is no
"guide". We all DO
keep well on topic MOST of the time. This is one of
the most
"well-behaved" groups I know around, and I should be
able to tell.
I subscribe and post to 18 groups, and recieve easily
business and group
mail in excess of 50-150 mails a day! Knowing how to
use a delete button
helps.
ALL questions are valid here
and Ive always had good
replies, ever
since years ago when I came out of lurkdom
. :>
No need to frazzle efforts
. I agree with David 100%
"If you want my
vote. Do not change the list. Keep it as is. It is a
great list."
Mike
David Atkinson wrote:
>
> Hi, My two cents worth. (specific to the idea to
create two lists
> from this one)
> ----
> I have been on this list a long time. We have had a
lot of new
> persons subscribing to the list. The purpose most
of these persons
> have are to learn from the experiences of others.
This process of
> sharing information relating to aquaponics helps us
all.
> -----
> If you want my vote. Do not change the list. Keep
it as is. It is a
> great list.
>
> David A
> from Jamaica W.I.
> (atkindw 'at' cybervale.com)
>
>
| Message 34
Subject: Re: Fish Species for Aquaponics
From: "Leslie Ter Morshuizen"
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 06:52:21 +0200
> I don't have accurate records on the growth rate but
the stocking density
> was .3 -.5/lb of fish/gal of water. The koi and
goldfish were raised
> together.
Rebecca
I am VERY impressed by the stocking density you
achieved as this is
significantly higher than normal, especially for
goldfish. Pity you don't
have information on the growth rate at this density.
Do you not perhaps
remember the basics: mass stocked, mass harvested,
growth time?
Thanks,
Leslie
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