Aquaponics Digest - Wed 09/26/01
Message 1: Ok check out this and let me know what you think.
from "Thomas Short"
Message 2: Re: Ok check out this and let me know what you think.
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 3: Re: Iron in well water
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 4: AquapHonics
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 5: Re: Iron in well water
from (Bruce Schreiber)
Message 6: Iron
.Culligan Man
from "Marc Laberge"
Message 7: FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP (totally off-topic)
from kris book
Message 8: Re: FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP (totally off-topic)
from "gerry magnuson"
Message 9: Re: FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP (totally off-topic)
from Andrei Calciu
Message 10: Re: Iron
.Culligan Man
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 11: Fwd. AQUAPONICS COURSE
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 12: Re: Ok check out this and let me know what you think.
from "Thomas Short"
Message 13: Re: AquapHonics
from "Thomas Short"
Message 14: Re: Aquaponics Web Site
from "Thomas Short"
Message 15: Re: FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP (totally off-topic)
from fred kious
Message 16: Pacu
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 17: Re: FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP (totally off-topic)
from "Robert Rogers"
Message 18: Re: Pacu
from pantryman 'at' empireone.net
Message 19: Re: Iron in well water
from bbergin 'at' webtv.net
Message 20: Re: Iron in well water
from bbergin 'at' webtv.net
Message 21: RE: Pacu
from "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Message 22: RE: Pacu
from "Chris Jeppesen"
Message 23: Re: Ok check out this and let me know what you think.
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 24: Fwd. SUMMIT ON AQUACULTURE & COMMUNICATIONS
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 25: Re: Iron
.Culligan Man
from "Marc Laberge"
| Message 1
Subject: Ok check out this and let me know what you think.
From: "Thomas Short"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 00:22:49 -0700
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I have a start on the Aquaphonics Library at:
http://aquaponicslibrary.20megsfree.com/Index.htm
The subjects aren't in order yet! I am going through the archive list and=
finding things as they come up. The links are ones I found useful.
If you have something that you think should be in the library send it to =
me
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| Message 2
Subject: Re: Ok check out this and let me know what you think.
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 07:46:42 -0500
At 12:22 AM 09/26/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>I have a start on the Aquaphonics Library at:
>
>http://aquaponicslibrary.20megsfree.com/Index.htm
>
>The subjects aren't in order yet! I am going through the archive list and
finding things as they come up. The links are ones I found useful.
>
>If you have something that you think should be in the library send it to me
>
>Thomas L. short
Thomas - The actual spelling, I believe, should be aquaponics, not
aquaphonics.
Is there any reason you are not interested in combining this listing with
the existing huge reference links at Mike Barnett's site:
http://aquaponics.20megsfree.com/index.html
Seems like a duplication of effort that might be more effective in one location.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
| Message 3
Subject: Re: Iron in well water
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 07:46:09 -0500
Thanks, Bill. Your process is similar to the Netafilm infomration
that Ted posted. Please give us the details on the filter.
Adriana
> rust I installed
> a chlorinating pump, it chlorinated the water(suspended the rust).
That
> was a good deal the rust didnt stick to the plumbing fixtures. But
that
> was not enough,still had red water. What finished the job was a
filter
>If any of this is of use to anyone or you let me know
> and I will pass on more details.
| Message 4
Subject: AquapHonics
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 07:55:53 -0500
Pssst!! Thomas.The correct term is "aquaPOnics"
.(no "H").
I suspect Ted and others are still hard at work on the underwater
telephone for communicating with the fishies, but it's not quite ready
to be unveiled yet. When it is completed it will be called the
"AquaPhone" and users will be practicing "aquaphonics". But if you
are only interested in growing fish and plants in an integrated system
it is simply "aquaponics"
:>)
Adriana
>I have a start on the Aquaphonics Library at:
| Message 5
Subject: Re: Iron in well water
From: (Bruce Schreiber)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:36:27 -0500 (CDT)
could you use a in line filter and rap enough wire around it to make an
electro-magnet and just plug it in to concentrate the iron and than
unplug it to empty ? I don't know I am just asking
Bruce
| Message 6
Subject: Iron
.Culligan Man
From: "Marc Laberge"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:09:31 -0400
Just a little note
.yup, I used to be a Culligan Man and sold units called
RustMasters to remove iron . The principal is simple , venture valve to
supersaturate the water so that the iron will precipitate , then a resin
filter which captures the oxidized iron, the unit has a timer on it and
automatically back washes the solids out . The units are maintenance free
and are fully guaranteed. Well worth the cost if you want to get serious
about iron. Their are 3-4 forms of iron and the RustMaster works for 2 of
them I think
Marc Laberge
Mont Tremblant
Quebec , Canada
| Message 7
Subject: FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP (totally off-topic)
From: kris book
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:07:11 -0600
I am posting this link to just about every address in my address book and
to all the lists that I am a member. It is off-topic for lists and if you
really do believe that your government is working for the good of all
citizens, please don't bother to open this link. If however, you are like
me and not sure of what to believe anymore, I offer this link as a
possible explanation for the reasons that mankind is still living like
animals. And to my friend Mark Wells, thanks for the explanation.
Namaste,
kris book
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/index.html
| Message 8
Subject: Re: FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP (totally off-topic)
From: "gerry magnuson"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:12:02 -1000
totally out of reality also, kris, strick to fish and veggies
.the sky is
not falling, take a prozac, and inhale
cowboy
>From: kris book
>Reply-To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>To: wastewatts 'at' yahoogroups.com, natensue,
>marciaandvince 'at' juno.com, dbgay 'at' ris.net, aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com,
> SustainableCommunity 'at' yahoogroups.com, organicminds 'at' aol.com,
>bookkelly, geraldov70 'at' aol.com, bgraves 'at' nkn.net,
>Bobandjt 'at' aol.com, BH 'at' Theotex.com
>Subject: FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP (totally off-topic)
>Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:07:11 -0600
>
>I am posting this link to just about every address in my address book and
>to all the lists that I am a member. It is off-topic for lists and if you
>really do believe that your government is working for the good of all
>citizens, please don't bother to open this link. If however, you are like
>me and not sure of what to believe anymore, I offer this link as a
>possible explanation for the reasons that mankind is still living like
>animals. And to my friend Mark Wells, thanks for the explanation.
>
>Namaste,
>kris book
>
>http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/index.html
| Message 9
Subject: Re: FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP (totally off-topic)
From: Andrei Calciu
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:06:44 -0400
Very childish article. Was the guy in 8th grade when he wrote that? Did the
tooth fairy visit that day?
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| Message 10
Subject: Re: Iron
.Culligan Man
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:34:03 -0500
Marc,
How much do the units cost? What flow rate can they handle?
Adriana
> and are fully guaranteed. Well worth the cost if you want to get
serious
> about iron. Their are 3-4 forms of iron and the RustMaster works
for 2 of
> them I think
| Message 11
Subject: Fwd. AQUAPONICS COURSE
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:20:01 -0500
Final Registration Notice:
AQUAPONICS COURSE
Bryson City, NC, November 6 - 9, 2001
Aquaponics interest is increasing globally in response to more emphasis on
resource management, sustainability and waste management. It involves
combining aquaculture and hydroponics for mutual benefit. To help meet the
demand for instruction, a practical course in Aquaponics will be held in
Bryson City, NC, November 6 - 9, 2001.
Lecture and AV presentations will include:
- components of aquaponic systems
- fish and plant selection
- balancing fish/plant production for efficiency and optimum yields
- utilizing old farm and other buildings
- small scale pilot projects
- systems design
- natural pest control
- meeting organic standards
- economics
- specialty markets for higher profitability, and
- accessing technical assistance and information.
Sites of interest, including a thriving commercial hydroponic lettuce
greenhouse operation and a watercress production operation utilizing trout
farm effluent water will be visited.
The lead instructor will be Gordon Creaser, who has been involved in
hydroponics for over 40 years and travels worldwide as an aquaponic
consultant. He is well known for his down-to-earth practical advice. In
addition, owners of several successful aquaponic facilities will share
useful information concerning the design and operation of their
systems. The class atmosphere will be informal, allowing plenty of time for
questions and personal attention.
For a course brochure and registration information, contact:
Aquaculture International, Inc., P.O. Box 606, Andrews, NC 28901
Phone or fax: 828-479-6294
Email: cwjohnson 'at' graham.main.nc.us
Aquaculture International is a non-profit organization dedicated to the
economically sound, environmentally compatible growth of the aquaculture
industry.
Registration fee: $175, $75 for spouse, full time student or business partner
$25 extra for registration after Oct.1, will be extended, if needed.
Missionaries and Ministries ask about discount.
-
Here's the reminder posted by our own Bert McLaughlin on September 15. Bert
will be one of the speakers at this conference. Contact him directly if you
have any questions, or Charles Johnson at the above address
From: Bertmcl
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:52:07 EDT
Subject: Aquaponics Course, Bryson City, NC Nov 6-9,2001
Fellow list members please remember any registrations for the above course
must be postmarked by Oct 1,2001 or the fee increases.
Many of the topics which have come up in the past month will be discussed
during this course. As one of the presentors, I urge as many as possible to
register and bring yours questions as well as your solutions. I for one am
really excited to be in attendence and know that I will bring back far more I
leave in the class.
GOD BLESS AMERICA and thanks for giving us an opportunity to share
information on such an exciting venture - AQUAPONICS.
For a brochure on this course please e-mail me Bertmcl.
| Message 12
Subject: Re: Ok check out this and let me know what you think.
From: "Thomas Short"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:12:37 -0700
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If you look the link =20
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is a link to Mike Barnett's site! That is what he calls it! I would be gl=
ad to do more but I don't have his permission to do so. His site is GRATE=
! has Pitchers. My site is a simple HTML site. I did this so anyone that =
wants to use pages from it on there site or put the whole site on their s=
ite could do it easy Just copy it and past it in what ever program you us=
e to make your wed pages and put it there. I give anyone permission to do=
so. I will keep adding to it weakly or more often if I can.
Thomas
=20
----- Original Message -----
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 5:49 AM
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Subject: Re: Ok check out this and let me know what you think.
=20
At 12:22 AM 09/26/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>I have a start on the Aquaphonics Library at:
>
>http://aquaponicslibrary.20megsfree.com/Index.htm
>
>The subjects aren't in order yet! I am going through the archive list an=
d
finding things as they come up. The links are ones I found useful.
>
>If you have something that you think should be in the library send it to=
me
>
>Thomas L. short
Thomas - The actual spelling, I believe, should be aquaponics, not
aquaphonics.
Is there any reason you are not interested in combining this listing with
the existing huge reference links at Mike Barnett's site:
http://aquaponics.20megsfree.com/index.html
Seems like a duplication of effort that might be more effective in one lo=
cation.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/Get more from the Web. FREE MSN=
Explorer download :
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If you look th=
e link is a link to Mike Barnett's site! T=
hat is what he calls it! I would be glad to do more but I don't have his =
permission to do so. His site is GRATE! has Pitchers. My site is a simple=
HTML site. I did this so anyone that wants to use pages from it on there=
site or put the whole site on their site could do it easy Just copy it a=
nd past it in what ever program you use to make your wed pages and put it=
there. I give anyone permission to do so. I will keep adding to it weakl=
y or more often if I can. Thomas =
----- Original Message ----- From: S =
& S Aqua Farm Sent: Wedn=
esday, September 26, 2001 5:49 AM <=
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At 12:22 AM 09/26/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>I have =
a start on the Aquaphonics Library at:
>
>http://aquaponicsli=
brary.20megsfree.com/Index.htm
>
>The subjects aren't in orde=
r yet! I am going through the archive list and
finding things as they =
come up. The links are ones I found useful.
>
>If you have so=
mething that you think should be in the library send it to me
>
=
>Thomas L. short
Thomas - The actual spelling, I believe, shoul=
d be aquaponics, not
aquaphonics.
Is there any reason you are n=
ot interested in combining this listing with
the existing huge referen=
ce links at Mike Barnett's site:
http://aquaponics.20megsfree.com/inde=
x.html
Seems like a duplication of effort that might be more effec=
tive in one location.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road=
8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://=
www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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| Message 13
Subject: Re: AquapHonics
From: "Thomas Short"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:24:24 -0700
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I fixed it! THANKS I made that page at 02:30 am using the file manger =20
Thomas
----- Original Message -----
From: gutierrez-lagatta
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 6:03 AM
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Subject: AquapHonics
=20
Pssst!! Thomas.The correct term is "aquaPOnics"
.(no "H").
I suspect Ted and others are still hard at work on the underwater
telephone for communicating with the fishies, but it's not quite ready
to be unveiled yet. When it is completed it will be called the
"AquaPhone" and users will be practicing "aquaphonics". But if you
are only interested in growing fish and plants in an integrated system
it is simply "aquaponics"
:>)
Adriana
>I have a start on the Aquaphonics Library at:Get more from the Web. FRE=
E MSN Explorer download :
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ANKS I made that page at 02:30 am using the file manger =
Thomas ----- Original Message ----- From:<=
/B> gutierrez-lagatta Sent: =
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 6:03 AM To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com I suspec=
t Ted and others are still hard at work on the underwater telephone fo=
r communicating with the fishies, but it's not quite ready to be unvei=
led yet. When it is completed it will be called the "AquaPhone" =
and users will be practicing "aquaphonics". But if you are only =
interested in growing fish and plants in an integrated system it is si=
mply "aquaponics"
:>) Adriana >I have a start =
on the Aquaphonics Library at: =
Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : =
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| Message 14
Subject: Re: Aquaponics Web Site
From: "Thomas Short"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:02:32 -0700
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I include the actual subscribe instructions for the
aquaponics mail group as you ask
=20
Thomas - just finally was able to pull up your resource site. It's
interesting to see the directions others take in their research efforts, =
and
it's a very resourceful site. Thanks for the links to our pages and the
mail group.
The aquaculture links page brought forth some links we hadn't seen before=
,
especially some resources on freshwater shrimp. Thanks for those.
You might want to include the actual subscribe instructions for the
aquaponics mail group. Anyone sending a message to aquaponics 'at' townsqr.co=
m
without first joining will just get a reject from the auto-responder.
Instructions are:
-=
-----
An e-mail discussion group has been formed - an open list specifically fo=
r
aquaponics - the combined systems of aquaculture and hydroponics. All wh=
o
are interested in learning and sharing information about this and related
topics are invited to participate.
*************************************************************************=
******
To subscribe, send an e-mail to:
aquaponics-request 'at' townsqr.com
in the body (or message area) type:
subscribe
*************************************************************************=
******
For more information, or if you have any questions, please contact the li=
st
providers, Tom and Paula Speraneo, at S&S Aqua Farm
-=
The one aquaponics link that has me perplexed is the aquaponic.com (not t=
o
be confused with aquaponics.com which is the site for the Aquaponics Jour=
nal
and related activities). The Aquaponic.com site has a tilapia photo for
background, and shows some set-ups that appear to be connected to
fish-raising systems, but nowhere in their write-ups do I find anything t=
hat
indicates they combine aquaculture with hydroponics --just lots of
hydro-related supplies. Am I missing something on that site? They also
don't really state who and where they are -- just an email and phone
contact. Has anyone had any dealings with this company
just curious=.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/Get more from the Web. FREE MSN=
Explorer download :
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I include the actual subscribe instructions fo=
r the
aquaponics mail group as you ask =
Thomas - just=
finally was able to pull up your resource site. It's
interestin=
g to see the directions others take in their research efforts, and
it'=
s a very resourceful site. Thanks for the links to our pages =
and the
mail group.
The aquaculture links page brought forth so=
me links we hadn't seen before,
especially some resources on freshwate=
r shrimp. Thanks for those.
You might want to include the ac=
tual subscribe instructions for the
aquaponics mail group. Anyon=
e sending a message to aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
without first joining wi=
ll just get a reject from the auto-responder.
Instructions are:
=
An e-mail discussion group has been formed - an open list speci=
fically for
aquaponics - the combined systems of aquaculture and hydro=
ponics. All who
are interested in learning and sharing informati=
on about this and related
topics are invited to participate.
**=
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To subscribe, send an e-mail to:
aquaponics-request 'at' townsqr.co=
m
in the body (or message area) type:
subscribe
************=
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Fo=
r more information, or if you have any questions, please contact the list=
providers, Tom and Paula Speraneo, at S&S Aqua Farm <snsaquasy=
s 'at' townsqr.com>
----=
---
The one aquaponics link that has me pe=
rplexed is the aquaponic.com (not to
be confused with aquaponics.com w=
hich is the site for the Aquaponics Journal
and related activities).&n=
bsp; The Aquaponic.com site has a tilapia photo for
background, and sh=
ows some set-ups that appear to be connected to
fish-raising systems, =
but nowhere in their write-ups do I find anything that
indicates they =
combine aquaculture with hydroponics --just lots of
hydro-related supp=
lies. Am I missing something on that site? They also
don't=
really state who and where they are -- just an email and phone
contac=
t. Has anyone had any dealings with this company
just curious.=
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, M=
O 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaq=
ua/
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he Web. FREE MSN Explorer download :
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| Message 15
Subject: Re: FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP (totally off-topic)
From: fred kious
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 13:45:13 -0700
take me off of this mailing list the bullshit is getting to deep
kris if you do not like our usa leave
fred kious
kris book wrote:
> I am posting this link to just about every address in my address book and
> to all the lists that I am a member. It is off-topic for lists and if you
> really do believe that your government is working for the good of all
> citizens, please don't bother to open this link. If however, you are like
> me and not sure of what to believe anymore, I offer this link as a
> possible explanation for the reasons that mankind is still living like
> animals. And to my friend Mark Wells, thanks for the explanation.
>
> Namaste,
> kris book
>
> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/index.html
| Message 16
Subject: Pacu
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:55:30 -0500
Hi Gang,
I haven't posted anything for awhile. Been trying to keep a low profile.
I just today took delivery of +/- 75 Pacu. I have these in a cage now with a
particular type of catfish (help me out Bruce
.I don't remember the name.)
Both of these fish are supposed to be tremendous "growers". I will keep the
list posted on these guys. Should be fun. The Pacu are Red Belly Pacu's.
Bruce and his friend Dennis (from Have-a-Hart) were able to negotiate a
price of $1.40/fish incl. shipping. These fish are farm bred in the
Phillipines. Contact Bruce, not me, if you are interested in the Pacu. But
pls., understand that this price fluctuates greatly depending upon
availability.
As all of you who know me know, I am really down on the Tilapia. As a matter
of fact, I'm unloading my remaining Tilapia for the lowly price of $.68/lb.
live weight. I just want to get rid of them. So much for Mike Sipes record.
These fish are almost 3 years old and are just now 3/4 to 1#. Don't want to
get into that anymore. I'm now into Pacu and Hybrid Bluegill.
Take care
.Steve
| Message 17
Subject: Re: FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP (totally off-topic)
From: "Robert Rogers"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:29:55 -0400
?
| Message 18
Subject: Re: Pacu
From: pantryman 'at' empireone.net
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:39:56 -0500
Hi Steve.I bought breeders from Mike Sipe and had no problems with them.
Mine went from birth to harvest in about 10 months (harvest was in excess of 2# liveweight)
Bob
"STEVE SPRING" wrote:
>
> Hi Gang,
>
> I haven't posted anything for awhile. Been trying to keep a low profile.
>
> I just today took delivery of +/- 75 Pacu. I have these in a cage now with a
> particular type of catfish (help me out Bruce
.I don't remember the name.)
> Both of these fish are supposed to be tremendous "growers". I will keep the
> list posted on these guys. Should be fun. The Pacu are Red Belly Pacu's.
>
> Bruce and his friend Dennis (from Have-a-Hart) were able to negotiate a
> price of $1.40/fish incl. shipping. These fish are farm bred in the
> Phillipines. Contact Bruce, not me, if you are interested in the Pacu. But
> pls., understand that this price fluctuates greatly depending upon
> availability.
>
> As all of you who know me know, I am really down on the Tilapia. As a matter
> of fact, I'm unloading my remaining Tilapia for the lowly price of $.68/lb.
> live weight. I just want to get rid of them. So much for Mike Sipes record.
> These fish are almost 3 years old and are just now 3/4 to 1#. Don't want to
> get into that anymore. I'm now into Pacu and Hybrid Bluegill.
>
> Take care
.Steve
>
>
>
| Message 19
Subject: Re: Iron in well water
From: bbergin 'at' webtv.net
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:55:48 -0500 (CDT)
Adriana, As I was saying on the last post,the heart of my sysem is
the filter. The chlorine suspends the rust and the filter removes it. I
made my filter from PVC Pipe 4 inch diameter by 2 and one half feet
long. One end capped permanently, the other end fitted with a
removable plate . All of this is by the way Pvc plastic Schedjule 40. I
drilled and tapped both ends for three quarter inch pipe threads. The
tube was filled after washing out with chlorine . I use the filter in a
verticle position. On the lower side ( the side with the permanent cap)
I first put in a pvc screen, then woven filter material,(available at
walmart , Pet supply dept. for fish tanks, sorry cant remember the
brand) next a layer of activated charcoal, (about 4 inches) this is
followed by sand(Solarian swiming pool filter sand) about 4 inches from
the top of the filter. On top of the sand goes 4 inches of activated
charcoal . Next more woven filter material and a pvc screen, and the
top cap. I operate the system at 50 psi. which provides very good
pressure at my house. The well is in a metal shed about 30 feet from the
house. I dont use timers for back flushing. What I did was to use
another filter similar to the first one to provide clean water for back
flushing, and many pvc valves so flushing is possible(manualy). My
indicators are drop in pressure or color change of the water at the
house. so far a flush once every week is more than enough. I also used
pvc unions at the top and bottom of each filter for servcability. I
think that It will be a year before I have to reload the filters. The
pvc is not expensive , the sand costs 5 dollars for 50 lbs. ,but the
activated charcoal is not cheap. The sand removes most of the rust and
the charcoal takes out the rusty taste. If you were dealing with large
amounts of water or a non pressurized system a gravity type of filter
could be made up. I have seen small ones advertised for camping using 5
gallon plastic pails. I hope this is of use to you or someone else.
Best wishes Bill B.
Have a Great Day
| Message 20
Subject: Re: Iron in well water
From: bbergin 'at' webtv.net
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:00:03 -0500 (CDT)
Adriana I would like to find out about Neta film Infoamation it sounds
interesting. Maybe way above my head. Bill B.
Have a Great Day
| Message 21
Subject: RE: Pacu
From: "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:29:17 +0800
Steve / Bruce,
Where oh where in the Philipinnes did they originate from ??
For the last 6 months I have been enviously reading all these posts
from you Guys ref Pacu, thinking I could never get Hold of them over
here ( in the Philipinne 'at' s ), and then this Bombshell turns up.
Nearest source I located was Thailand !
I 'at' m with you Steve,
I just gotta try these .
Really apreciate any info you could give here
( eternally Hopeful )
Steve H
SNIP
I just today took delivery of +/- 75 Pacu. I have these in a cage now with a
particular type of catfish (help me out Bruce
.I don't remember the name.)
Both of these fish are supposed to be tremendous "growers". I will keep the
list posted on these guys. Should be fun. The Pacu are Red Belly Pacu's.
Bruce and his friend Dennis (from Have-a-Hart) were able to negotiate a
price of $1.40/fish incl. shipping. These fish are farm bred in the
Phillipines. Contact Bruce, not me, if you are interested in the Pacu. But
pls., understand that this price fluctuates greatly depending upon
availability.
| Message 22
Subject: RE: Pacu
From: "Chris Jeppesen"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:57:16 -0700
Steve
Your going to like the way the pacu grow. Mine where 3" long eight weeks ago and average 6's
now. I need a scale to better ducument there growth. but it is truly amazing you can almost
watch them grow.
Chris
> "STEVE SPRING"
>I just today took delivery of +/- 75 Pacu. I have these in a cage now with a
>particular type of catfish (help me out Bruce
.I don't remember the name.)
| Message 23
Subject: Re: Ok check out this and let me know what you think.
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:06:55 -0500
At 02:12 PM 09/26/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>If you look the link
>Aquaponics Group Resource Site
>
>is a link to Mike Barnett's site! That is what he calls it! I would be glad
to do more but I don't have his permission to do so. His site is GRATE! has
Pitchers. My site is a simple HTML site. I did this so anyone that wants to
use pages from it on there site or put the whole site on their site could do
it easy Just copy it and past it in what ever program you use to make your
wed pages and put it there. I give anyone permission to do so. I will keep
adding to it weakly or more often if I can.
>
>Thomas
I did see the link to Mike's page, Thomas. I was just curious why you
found it necessary to create a semi-duplicate listing when so much work has
already gone into identifying links. Then again, Mike has asked for help.
He said:
>There's nothing stopping posting the site "as is" but my pride. I need
>help to tag the bookmarks, but a lot of folks who promised initially
>didnt chip in, so I tag along. There are thousands of bookmarks, and so
>it takes time. If I weren't such a "perfectionist" I would just post the
>address as it is, and work ongoing.
>
Like most of us, Mike only has certain periods of time to devote to this
volunteer effort. Sounds to me like those who are interested in seeing the
site grow into a more refined page could offer some time. Of course, now
I've gone and done this without asking permission. Perhaps you and I both
should talk to Mike.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
| Message 24
Subject: Fwd. SUMMIT ON AQUACULTURE & COMMUNICATIONS
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:27:39 -0500
From: "Dave Conley"
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 07:33:43 -0400
NFI AND NAA JOIN OLDWAYS TO ADDRESS THE PRESSING ISSUES ABOUT SUSTAINABLE
AQUACULTURE AND FISHERIES OLDWAYS WATER FARMING INITIATIVE
November 4 - 6, 2001 ~ Baltimore, Maryland
http://www.oldwayspt.org/
The Water Farming Initiative (WFI) is a multi-year project organized by
Oldways Preservation and Exchange Trust. The first public conference of the
WFI will be held November 4 - 6, 2001 at the Renaissance Harbor Place Hotel
in
Baltimore, Maryland and is co-organized with the National Fisheries
Institute. For more information and to register call Annie Bonney
617.896.4866
Click here http://www.oldwayspt.org/aquaculture/wfprog.htm to take a look at
our program.
- - -
A MEETING OF THE MINDS:
Water Farming and the World's Food Future
The Sustainable Route to a Stable and Healthy Food Supply
When: November 4th, 5th & 6th, 2001
Where: Renaissance Harborplace Hotel, Baltimore, Maryland
Who: Scientists, journalists, industry, government, NGOs, chefs
What: Science-based solutions-driven conference
How: Assemble these experts for high-level presentations and extensive
results-oriented discussions about the future of sustainable water farming.
Reach agreement on the differences concerning its future growth.
By: Organized by Oldways Preservation & Exchange Trust; co-organized by
National Fisheries Institute and National Aquaculture Association.
Conference Highlights:
- World-renowned experts from science, academic, government and industry
present state-of-the-art knowledge on a variety of critical aquaculture
issues (History; Health and Nutrition; Feed; Water Quality, Availability and
Effluents; Regulations; Wild & Farmed Fish Interactions; Chefs, Palatability
and Perceptions; and Media, Communications and Attitudes).
- Leading academic and other experts seek to find agreement on base-line
data for water farming.
- Leaders in the industry present their visions for the future.
- Discussion, question and answer sessions to identify obstacles and areas
of agreement.
- Leading chefs prepare and discuss meals featuring harvests of water farms.
- Top journalists discuss "facts and fictions", and attitudes and
perceptions of water farming.
- Networking and discussions among attendees.
Partial List of Participating Scientists, Experts, Chefs and Journalists
include:
- Des FitzGerald, Founder, Ducktrap Farms & former President, Atlantic
Salmon Maine
- Larry Cope, President, Clear Springs Farm
- Ron Hardy, Hagerman Fish Culture Experimental Station, University of Idaho
- Brian Halweil, Research Associate, WorldWatch Institute
- Conservation Law Foundation representative
- Barry Costa-Pierce, Sea Grant Program, University of Rhode Island
- Cliff Goudey, Sea Grant Program, MIT
- Kevin Fitzsimmons, Environmental Research Lab, University of Arizona
- Judy Weinraub, Writer, Washington Post
- Beth Daley, Writer, Boston Globe
- Dave Conley, Aquaculture Newsclips and Aquaculture Communications
Consultant
- James Peterson, Chef and Cookbook Author
- Ed Doyle, Chef, Aura Restaurant, Boston Seaport Hotel
- Jim McVey, Program Director for Aquaculture, NOAA National Sea Grant
College Program
- John Ewart, Sea Grant Marine Advisory Service, University of Delaware
Registration: $295 for all three days
- includes:
3 days of sessions
3 Breakfasts
3 lunches
1 Evening Event/Dinner
All conference materials
6 Coffee breaks during Conference
Day Registration Rates are available. (Please call or email.)
Register online at www.oldwayspt.org
OR call, fax or email:
Oldways Preservation & Exchange Trust, 266 Beacon Street, Boston, MA 021116
617.421.5500 (telephone)/617.421.5511 (fax)/oldways 'at' oldwayspt.org
Special Conference Hotel Room Rate for attendees:
The rate is $185 at the waterfront Renaissance Harborplace Hotel in
Baltimore.
Please call 1.800.HOTELS1
Contacts for Information and Registration:
Annie Bonney or Sara Baer-Sinnott
Contacts for Media:
Aimee Murdock Burke or Deborah Good
Background:
The Conference is organized by Oldways Preservation & Exchange Trust, a
Boston based nonprofit educational organization, and is co-organized with
the National Fisheries Institute and National Aquaculture Association. The
first public conference of the multi-year Water Farming Initiative (WFI)
will be held November 4 - 6, 2001 at the Renaissance Harborplace Hotel in
Baltimore, Maryland.
The purposes of the Conference and the WFI are to:
(1) Present correct and science-based information about aquaculture;
(2) Establish a level playing field for aquaculture and its future
sustainable expansion;
(3) Change public perceptions and public policies about aquaculture through
ongoing public educational programs.
Oldways believes strongly that an expansion of sustainable aquaculture will
make our world a better place, from the key perspectives of food security,
environment, and public health, and also believes that a sustainable
expansion of aquaculture can help to assure a sound balance between
aquaculture and catch fisheries.
The WFI will challenge academics, businesspeople, environmentalists, and
public officials to:
Join in promoting sustainable expansion of water farming.
Focus on solutions.
Follow "best practice" principles.
Argue less and negotiate more.
The format of this Conference will follow the Oldways results-driven model
of forums intended to cause change in public policies and consumer
perceptions. Conference presenters will be drawn from an international base
of leaders in science, environmental issues, industry, government,
communications, and food. Moderated discussion and question/answer sessions
will be interspersed throughout the Conference. The meals and breaks will
present water-farmed products prepared by leading chefs.
Underlying all elements of the Conference and WFI is a respect for science.
This conference will be thoroughly grounded on the best scientific evidence,
bolstered by experts in communications, legal and regulatory issues,
palatability, environmental and technical matters, and the role of animal
and plant foods grown in water in a sustainable global food system.
Oldways Preservation & Exchange Trust
266 Beacon Street
Boston, MA 02116 USA
617.421.5500 (telephone)
617.421.5511 (fax)
http://www.oldwayspt.org/
| Message 25
Subject: Re: Iron
.Culligan Man
From: "Marc Laberge"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:37:29 -0400
Adriana, I think their were around $1800 CND or you could buy them used for
around $1000CND. You would have to call Culligan for flow rate specs I don't
remember by heart.
-----Original Message-----
From: gutierrez-lagatta
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Iron
.Culligan Man
> Marc,
>
>How much do the units cost? What flow rate can they handle?
>
>Adriana
>
>> and are fully guaranteed. Well worth the cost if you want to get
>serious
>> about iron. Their are 3-4 forms of iron and the RustMaster works
>for 2 of
>> them I think
>
>
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